<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606</id><updated>2011-10-01T19:21:34.416+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Malcolm's Rambles</title><subtitle type='html'>Journey with Malcolm Herbert. 
A search for encounter and enlightenment with a 'Church as we know it' Vicar</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>35</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-6583588963347246428</id><published>2010-10-18T20:15:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-10-18T20:15:20.670+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Here I am again.....</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TLxnZDtdcYI/AAAAAAAACfc/YpAQNrQt_-c/s1600/IMG_7127-1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" ex="true" height="200" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TLxnZDtdcYI/AAAAAAAACfc/YpAQNrQt_-c/s200/IMG_7127-1.JPG" width="114" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Most of you will have given up looking for any new blog from me since August. All I can say is that I think you needed a respite from my rambles. So what has stirred me to write....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I read an article recently by Graham Cray addressing the issue about failing Fresh Expressions. Sadly words like FE and fail are not&amp;nbsp;often acknowledged in our present church culture. GC makes an observation that I think applies not just to Fresh Expressions but also to&amp;nbsp;Church 'as we know it'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;'Perhaps the key lesson is that fresh expressions are more likely to be fruitful if they grow out of relationships, than if&amp;nbsp; they use an event to establish relationships.'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Effective church communities, whether 'inherited traditon' or Fresh Expression are those&amp;nbsp;who&amp;nbsp;understand this and make the relational and network value central to their life and mission.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TLxlwrGZxAI/AAAAAAAACfY/K0KVKiJmgZ0/s1600/IMG_7146.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" ex="true" height="151" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TLxlwrGZxAI/AAAAAAAACfY/K0KVKiJmgZ0/s200/IMG_7146.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;Yet somehow many of us still think that what we put on 'in church'&amp;nbsp;will be enough even though&amp;nbsp;our theology is rooted in the one who 'moved &lt;strong&gt;into &lt;/strong&gt;the neighbourhood'. As a parish priest I am only to aware of the expectation from&amp;nbsp;all sides&amp;nbsp;that we must do 'something' to 'bring them in'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN" style="mso-ansi-language: EN;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;Nothing is more effective than relationships and building community - whoever and whatever people are invited to.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-6583588963347246428?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/6583588963347246428/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/10/here-i-am-again.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6583588963347246428'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6583588963347246428'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/10/here-i-am-again.html' title='Here I am again.....'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TLxnZDtdcYI/AAAAAAAACfc/YpAQNrQt_-c/s72-c/IMG_7127-1.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-951203674700056297</id><published>2010-08-06T20:20:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-08-06T20:20:37.920+01:00</updated><title type='text'>The Score</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFxfQ_2i4vI/AAAAAAAACY0/mCidBhmdHOw/s1600/IMG_6194.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" height="105" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFxfQ_2i4vI/AAAAAAAACY0/mCidBhmdHOw/s200/IMG_6194.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Having read 'The Plot' by Madeleine Bunting this week, I&amp;nbsp;have been struck powerfully by the memories evoked by music. There are some pieces of music that evoke good memories and some not so good. It has nothing to do with the merits or otherwise of the piece of music but association with people, events and circumstance. On our way back from a walk Sheryl and I were listening to Mahler's 5th Symphony - Mahler has been all the rage at the proms this year and to be honest I haven't found his music the most enjoyable. However I have been&amp;nbsp;attracted by it's variety and 'interest' if not it's 'tunability' - though it does have a bit of that. Listening to the Adagietto - a beautiful piece of music - took me back some years ago&amp;nbsp;to a very difficult time in our lives. Maybe my antipathy to Mahler is more rooted in personal memory rather than the music's intrinsic value. There are pieces of music that I will listen to that evoke good moments - Schumann's Rhenish Symphony for instance - though only because it was on the radio at a moment when I knew things were on the up.&amp;nbsp;I can't say Schumann tops my charts every day!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFxf7nwsugI/AAAAAAAACY8/5YCcExeOFiQ/s1600/IMG_6289.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" height="150" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFxf7nwsugI/AAAAAAAACY8/5YCcExeOFiQ/s200/IMG_6289.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Music can lift the spirits but to be honest if some music gets associated with certain events - personal or otherwise - it's going to be a tough call for that tune! I haven't of course mentioned Wagner...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-951203674700056297?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/951203674700056297/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/08/score.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/951203674700056297'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/951203674700056297'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/08/score.html' title='The Score'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFxfQ_2i4vI/AAAAAAAACY0/mCidBhmdHOw/s72-c/IMG_6194.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-3611335468043065025</id><published>2010-08-03T19:25:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-08-03T19:25:26.792+01:00</updated><title type='text'>The Plot</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFhcytpjaMI/AAAAAAAACYI/Dfg-TMWAdxA/s1600/IMG_6178-1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFhcytpjaMI/AAAAAAAACYI/Dfg-TMWAdxA/s320/IMG_6178-1.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Holiday reading includes the latest by Peter James, Elizabeth George, John Ortberg etc&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;One I&amp;nbsp;highly commend&amp;nbsp;is &lt;strong&gt;'The Plot' by Madeleine Bunting&lt;/strong&gt;. A really great piece of writing and a moving account of a plot of land in North Yorkshire owned by her father and upon which he built a Chapel. No wonder Simon Scharma describes the book as being &lt;em&gt;'among the very best about what it means to be English.'&lt;/em&gt; To be honest&amp;nbsp;whether you're&amp;nbsp;English, Welsh, French or anything else&amp;nbsp;you&amp;nbsp;may&amp;nbsp;still find it a brilliant read! It is a very moving account about what it means to be part of a culture with its history and all that means in terms of its highs and lows, gains and losses - and&amp;nbsp;at the same time weaved through it all is the life of&amp;nbsp;Bunting's family - again with its its highs and lows etc etc&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;All looked at through the 'lens' of a piece of land.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I can't go to Cheltenham (my home town)&amp;nbsp;without thinking, reflecting and wishing I could have written a book like this.&amp;nbsp;I am sure many of us have&amp;nbsp;our 'plots' even in this age of national and global mobility.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFhdPIAeC0I/AAAAAAAACYQ/u1mxKKE1T1Y/s1600/IMG_6165-1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" height="133" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFhdPIAeC0I/AAAAAAAACYQ/u1mxKKE1T1Y/s200/IMG_6165-1.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Place is significant becuase it speaks to us about where we have come from and who we are now... it may have also have something to say about our future... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;'the Word became flesh and moved into the neighbourhood'.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-3611335468043065025?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/3611335468043065025/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/08/plot.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/3611335468043065025'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/3611335468043065025'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/08/plot.html' title='The Plot'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFhcytpjaMI/AAAAAAAACYI/Dfg-TMWAdxA/s72-c/IMG_6178-1.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-2736351461329750283</id><published>2010-07-31T17:21:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-07-31T17:21:36.887+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Cycles, Sunflowers and the point of it all.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFRM6CKdvrI/AAAAAAAACXU/G9WPW6bX6xk/s1600/IMG_6017.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" height="145" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFRM6CKdvrI/AAAAAAAACXU/G9WPW6bX6xk/s200/IMG_6017.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFRKkU6ps0I/AAAAAAAACW8/cM8m_vIosFI/s1600/IMG_6023.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" height="143" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFRKkU6ps0I/AAAAAAAACW8/cM8m_vIosFI/s200/IMG_6023.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Pedalling &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;along we passed a place called 'Le Point du Jour'. It means 'Daybreak' apparently. My first reading of it was simply 'the point of the day', (but then french was never my strong point),&amp;nbsp;and wondered what an interesting name to give a place. In one sense we all need a point or reason for getting out of bed at the start of a day. Like many people I sometimes wonder what the point is to be honest - but even when it is hard something or more usually someone makes it worth the point. To live in love and relationship is basically the point of life I think. It takes a few days out of the routine to make me appreciate afresh&amp;nbsp;someone else's love, the beauty around me, the call of serving&amp;nbsp;others&amp;nbsp;and that there is a point even when sometimes it feels that there isn't. Those who live in 'Daybreak' in this part of France&amp;nbsp;wake up at this time of year surrounded by fields of sunflowers - those beautiful plants who live to face the sun and soak up it's energy and warmth. I always remember an old nun telling me that for her prayer was sunbathing in the presence of divine love. Now that's a point....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFRK4COdqLI/AAAAAAAACXM/ieoOFB5EC5c/s1600/IMG_6043.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" height="116" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFRK4COdqLI/AAAAAAAACXM/ieoOFB5EC5c/s200/IMG_6043.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;Time for wine methinks.....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-2736351461329750283?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/2736351461329750283/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/07/cycles-sunflowers-and-point-of-it-all.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/2736351461329750283'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/2736351461329750283'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/07/cycles-sunflowers-and-point-of-it-all.html' title='Cycles, Sunflowers and the point of it all.'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFRM6CKdvrI/AAAAAAAACXU/G9WPW6bX6xk/s72-c/IMG_6017.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-6183913788607535221</id><published>2010-07-30T14:53:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-07-30T14:53:16.285+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Randonnees en France</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFLYAaZ1EyI/AAAAAAAACV8/D4MVGVHopmo/s1600/IMG_5981-1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" height="153" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFLYAaZ1EyI/AAAAAAAACV8/D4MVGVHopmo/s200/IMG_5981-1.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Day 2&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFLYL3VlujI/AAAAAAAACWE/5j0llIJ1sJM/s1600/IMG_5998-1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" height="181" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFLYL3VlujI/AAAAAAAACWE/5j0llIJ1sJM/s200/IMG_5998-1.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Wandered up to the Boulangerie via the church. Lovely prayerful space. I am not someone who thinks that because a building has the label 'church' and looks like one,&amp;nbsp;it has to necessarily 'be' so. Preached on Jacob and 'Bethel' (House of God)&amp;nbsp;last Sunday which to me means that in a culture which saw God in very local and possesive terms, there was the emergance of some sort of understanding that God could be encountered anywhere he chose to meet with them -&amp;nbsp;and they with him. 'Where two or three' and all that....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFLYUycMdiI/AAAAAAAACWM/zQiX4MeSP7Q/s1600/IMG_6004-1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" height="130" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFLYUycMdiI/AAAAAAAACWM/zQiX4MeSP7Q/s200/IMG_6004-1.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Anyway onwards and upwards&amp;nbsp;to the bakers. I entered looking like the Englishman abroad and uttered the word 'Bonjour' as one does, only to get the response 'Hullo, Monsieur'. I spoke French in my English way, whereas Madame spoke English in her French way. Just got me thinking a bit about culture and communication. As I'm holiday I won't go too far with this. I just need to learn not just to speak French but to 'speak' French in a french sort of way. Maybe a gallic shrug here&amp;nbsp;and grunt there. Discover your 'inner Gaul' is the sub- title of a book I'm reading at the moment. Communication is obviously more than simply saying the right words.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFLYhJqx9UI/AAAAAAAACWU/ROKWBAGHEFA/s1600/IMG_5990-1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" height="123" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFLYhJqx9UI/AAAAAAAACWU/ROKWBAGHEFA/s200/IMG_5990-1.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-6183913788607535221?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/6183913788607535221/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/07/randonnees-en-france_30.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6183913788607535221'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6183913788607535221'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/07/randonnees-en-france_30.html' title='Randonnees en France'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFLYAaZ1EyI/AAAAAAAACV8/D4MVGVHopmo/s72-c/IMG_5981-1.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-8360649778262642061</id><published>2010-07-29T14:51:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-07-29T14:51:43.668+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Randonnees en France</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFGGgoL9aJI/AAAAAAAACVY/QYdPZ_DW-VM/s1600/IMG_5930-2.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" height="140" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFGGgoL9aJI/AAAAAAAACVY/QYdPZ_DW-VM/s200/IMG_5930-2.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Day 1&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFGGsU_IXRI/AAAAAAAACVg/ce_6WFvk-z0/s1600/IMG_5936-2.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" height="125" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFGGsU_IXRI/AAAAAAAACVg/ce_6WFvk-z0/s200/IMG_5936-2.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Staying in a friends house&amp;nbsp;in the depths of the French countryside&amp;nbsp;near Limoges in the Hautes-Vienne. Rural, peaceful, warm - so time to wind down a bit. How hard is that!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Steve keeps chickens so a wander over the road to say hullo, next doors dog sitting in the window watching my every step, a stroll up to the boulangerie for 'le pain' (cakes to die for)&amp;nbsp;and 'confit de canard' cooking in the slow cooker. Plus church bells, across the way, timed to ring morning, noon and night to remind the workers in the field to get up and go to work, have a break and then come home at night. Timed by satellite apparently -&amp;nbsp;Belstar!? A mix of the 'ancienne et moderne'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFGG6RyOG8I/AAAAAAAACVo/aStetF2wqEc/s1600/IMG_5941-1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" bx="true" height="149" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFGG6RyOG8I/AAAAAAAACVo/aStetF2wqEc/s200/IMG_5941-1.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-8360649778262642061?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/8360649778262642061/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/07/randonnees-en-france.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/8360649778262642061'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/8360649778262642061'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/07/randonnees-en-france.html' title='Randonnees en France'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TFGGgoL9aJI/AAAAAAAACVY/QYdPZ_DW-VM/s72-c/IMG_5930-2.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-4467487509446443427</id><published>2010-07-11T23:11:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-07-11T23:11:15.525+01:00</updated><title type='text'>A Father's legacy....</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDo94zdFcrI/AAAAAAAACRc/A_e6sINeVhA/s1600/IMG_5445.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" rw="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDo94zdFcrI/AAAAAAAACRc/A_e6sINeVhA/s200/IMG_5445.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;For some reason I started thinking about my father. He wasn't perfect, and as an imperfect father myself, I appreciate that now. Having preached this morning on the 'furious longing of God' and also remembered Tom Smail saying that his interest in the Fatherhood of God was shaped by the father he never knew, prompted me to simply consider what my Dad bequeathed to me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Dad&amp;nbsp;was&amp;nbsp;an&amp;nbsp;intelligent 'labour' person.&amp;nbsp;He played the piano, he loved a breadth of music, he would build radios from scratch, he would work on various DIY projects, maintain a car, build furniture, develop a complex form system to feed his love of horse racing as well as having a 'clever' job, but not highly paid,&amp;nbsp;inspecting the building of aircraft.&amp;nbsp;I think he was extremely underrated by many of us, myself included and suspect the equivalent job today would be seen as extremely responsible and&amp;nbsp;be better paid.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;What did my Dad give me?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDo-fVLbzvI/AAAAAAAACRk/q6cRUAHfWYw/s1600/0909-SDJH-0147.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" rw="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDo-fVLbzvI/AAAAAAAACRk/q6cRUAHfWYw/s200/0909-SDJH-0147.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;A&amp;nbsp;love and appreciation for music. He had a wide appreciation of music, especially music that as Natalie Wheen says has a 'good tune'. What a gift to pass onto your children. And as far as being a Vicar and worship leader who longs to see worship&amp;nbsp;engaging people where they are, nothing does that to be honest, more than a good tune. I say this realising that a good tune is subjective.&amp;nbsp;And that is something else I think he taught me&amp;nbsp;- his tastes were very broad. I remember him bashing away on the old piano in the hall as the small council house was filled with the tunes of Beethoven, Addinnsell, Gershwin, Oscar Hammerstein, the Beatles, Procol Harum and then back to a bit of Bach. A&amp;nbsp;good tune is a good tune in anybody's language and culture.&amp;nbsp;He came to hear me lead and accompany a school&amp;nbsp;production of Oliver, and his pride and joy at hearing me 'glissandoing' my way up and down the old ivories was a treasured memory that has stayed with me these past 35 years. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Again for me as a&amp;nbsp;worship leader, when it comes to music it is what tunes (and words)&amp;nbsp;enable people of all generations and cultures&amp;nbsp;to engage with God - but not necessarily all at the same time!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;That is why I have no problem with developing congregations that are generationally and culturally different.... being catholic&amp;nbsp;is about&amp;nbsp;finding &amp;nbsp;means of&amp;nbsp;unity and oversight&amp;nbsp;rather than conformity. How else is Post - Mixed economy church going to be effective?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDo_B_qS8tI/AAAAAAAACRs/sxIrqJgp1i8/s1600/IMG_5392-1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" rw="true" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDo_B_qS8tI/AAAAAAAACRs/sxIrqJgp1i8/s200/IMG_5392-1.JPG" width="133" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Another gift my father gave to me was an attitude that never quite takes things at face value.Out of this came a questioning spirit that could sometimes manifest itself in prejudice but more helpfully gave me an attitude that will question, dig a bit deeper and challenge what I perceive to be unjust and unfair attitudes and systems. I also encourages me&amp;nbsp;to work hard at developing self - awareness - something I needed to do when working in a 'charismatic' context.&amp;nbsp;It is not a gift that I have readily appreciated and found easy to handle. My Dad had a hang- up about religion&amp;nbsp;in general and the church in particular. For him it was more than the usual jibe of 'hypocrisy' but something about 'priests' controlling and manipulating peoples lives. He wasn't far from an 'opium' of the people view- something that he hoped I would grow out of!&amp;nbsp;Yet he did have time for Jesus Christ as the man from Nazareth. I have&amp;nbsp;inherited for good or ill&amp;nbsp;a similar sort of attitude which makes me feel increasingly&amp;nbsp;that once the church believes it is THE church as an object of belief then it has lost sight of its calling and mission. I believe that power and authority in the church is not about controlling others and seeking to get them to conform and behave in certain ways.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDo_ZjWcEXI/AAAAAAAACR0/6wbKb0VPrOo/s1600/IMG_5342-1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="162" rw="true" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDo_ZjWcEXI/AAAAAAAACR0/6wbKb0VPrOo/s200/IMG_5342-1.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;Maybe that is why the news about Jeffrey John, not being short listed for Bishop of Southwark, came across to me as unjust and unnecessary. Leave the man alone and give him a job that he is patently able to do well. The news about the proposed amendment of the Archbishop's in relation to Women Bishops just made me angry. I can hear my Dad huffing and puffing about how irrelevant the church is, full of its own self-importance and living in a little world of its own making. Mind you the way that amendment was defeated at Synod&amp;nbsp;was a sign to me that God will have his way messing up the best laid, (and the not so best laid), plans of men. I now see that my Dad had a point. A point I ignored because I was too busy defending 'my' church. We do become irrelevant and out of touch when&amp;nbsp;we lose touch with Jesus and seek to manage God and mess around with the his basic creation values of justice, equality and human dignity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDo_8QzsgnI/AAAAAAAACR8/40sqt3nUl3A/s1600/IMG_5034.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="160" rw="true" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDo_8QzsgnI/AAAAAAAACR8/40sqt3nUl3A/s200/IMG_5034.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;So - thanks Dad, no doubt other things will come to mind. I never got the hang of fishing. Spending hours with you by some very bleak and damp Gloucestershire river bank was never anything that floated my boat as it were, but I'm sure it&amp;nbsp;has given&amp;nbsp;me the gifts of endurance and holy impatience. Being a Vicar and Chair of my home county's University, (I think he might be a bit chuffed), has certainly helped me to develop those gifts!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;PS: Sheryl notices that my father's DIY, car maintenance&amp;nbsp;and technological skills were obviously not passed on.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-4467487509446443427?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/4467487509446443427/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/07/fathers-legacy.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/4467487509446443427'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/4467487509446443427'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/07/fathers-legacy.html' title='A Father&apos;s legacy....'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDo94zdFcrI/AAAAAAAACRc/A_e6sINeVhA/s72-c/IMG_5445.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-9072306481610959777</id><published>2010-07-08T08:51:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-07-08T08:51:16.315+01:00</updated><title type='text'>The Blessed Mary - Queen of Shops - visits the CofE</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDWBUk0T2zI/AAAAAAAACQ4/X5Ha4dOkobU/s1600/IMG_4221.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" rw="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDWBUk0T2zI/AAAAAAAACQ4/X5Ha4dOkobU/s200/IMG_4221.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Like the 120 Bus - you wait a week and then two or even four come along at the same time - so another blog within the same week.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I heard this week that some Local Authorities are seriously exploring the idea of sharing key senior staff members with each other. Who needs their own CEO at vast expense when you can share one with the neighbouring authority? The other thing that resonated was the TV programme 'Mary - Queen of Shops'.This week saw this fiesty business lady dealing with a hippie type bric and brac shop in Kingston. She got a result. Life and business has been transformed for the couple who own and run it. There were some tough moments and tough decisions to make - not least managing the exit of their erstwhile son who kept insisting on wearing his dressing gown in front of customers! Hard choices and tough decisions. They listened and moved on - sadly the son didn't! Result - obvious growth, a happy fulfilled couple plus contented customers.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDWCfwaU4mI/AAAAAAAACRA/cCqxVS3JqnA/s1600/IMG_1036.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" rw="true" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDWCfwaU4mI/AAAAAAAACRA/cCqxVS3JqnA/s200/IMG_1036.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Where am&amp;nbsp; I going with this? For the Church of England if it is serious about mission and growth in a Post Christian world and tap into the desire of many Christ Foloowers in congregations&amp;nbsp;scarce resources will have to be more effectively used and focused. The idea of Dioceses sharing senior teams and resources&amp;nbsp;has been knocking about for years but those in 'power' seem to resist it like mad. It was like the General Synod having to vote for&amp;nbsp;fewer members - it did but to be honest it was a turkey voting for Christmas scenario and is still too big and unwieldy. We don't have the money to pay for cumbersome, out of date systems of leadership, management, governance&amp;nbsp;and administration. Wise up Cof E - with our Gospel values and faith we should lead the way in this. If we want it, if we listen&amp;nbsp;- it will happen. Maybe a visit from the Blessed Mary - Queen of Shops to all our Diocesan offices and Bishop's Staff meetings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-9072306481610959777?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/9072306481610959777/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/07/blessed-mary-queen-of-shops-visits-cofe.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/9072306481610959777'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/9072306481610959777'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/07/blessed-mary-queen-of-shops-visits-cofe.html' title='The Blessed Mary - Queen of Shops - visits the CofE'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDWBUk0T2zI/AAAAAAAACQ4/X5Ha4dOkobU/s72-c/IMG_4221.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-8858852935220788910</id><published>2010-07-07T19:51:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2010-07-07T19:55:38.763+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Ordination - 'Just like that'</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;My colleague is on a cycling holiday with an ordained 'magician'. All will be revealed&amp;nbsp;- '&lt;strong&gt;just like that.'&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The past few weeks have seen a number of people being ordained as deacons and priests in the Church of England.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDNvFd9vXEI/AAAAAAAACQU/CHAuhVgmtzc/s1600/IMG_5427-1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="161" rw="true" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDNvFd9vXEI/AAAAAAAACQU/CHAuhVgmtzc/s200/IMG_5427-1.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;On BBC 2 at the moment&amp;nbsp;there is an interesting comedy called 'Rev.' Vicar of Dibley it is not. Someone has been watching the Cof E quite carefully - for TV I think it is amazingly accurate and perceptive.&amp;nbsp;It can even become too close for comfort. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;One of the most profound stories in the New Testament that speaks to&amp;nbsp;me time and time again is that of the birth of John the Baptist. More specifically the story of his Mum and Dad, when they received the news that they were going to have a child. Two old people, childless, barren, marginalised, seen as a bit of a failure to be honest. But Zechariah was also a priest and his once in a lifetime opportunity to lead worship in the sanctuary came along. There he was told about God's gift of a special child. Yep - God speaks even through&amp;nbsp;the old ways&amp;nbsp;but mercifully not to keep us there! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDNvrjsDYGI/AAAAAAAACQc/TSHKO8UWQZQ/s1600/IMG_5350-1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="141" rw="true" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDNvrjsDYGI/AAAAAAAACQc/TSHKO8UWQZQ/s200/IMG_5350-1.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Understandably&amp;nbsp;Zechariah laughed. Whisper it not but even priests find some things hard to believe! For this he was struck dumb. No - &amp;nbsp;I believe, (as in my spin on the story),&amp;nbsp;he was given the opportunity to reflect inwardly - the gift of silence. As he offered the prayers of the people of God he was able to tap into God's ways and purposes. When he had finished his priestly 'stint' he was asked what family name the child would be given. He wrote the name John. No-one in the family had that name - this was counter-cultural - it cannot be. 'His name is John.' is emphatic, purposeful and a one point sermon!. John meaning: 'God is gracious'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Right from the womb JB had a model of being counter-cultural for God's sake and the name of grace.The name God wanted for this prophetic forerunner of the fulfilment of all those prophecies - Jesus - the 'neighbourhood' embodiment of God's grace and counter cultural religion.&amp;nbsp;('&lt;em&gt;He sits&amp;nbsp;and eats with&amp;nbsp;tax collectors and sinners'&lt;/em&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Zechariah the old fashioned and conservative priest has himself become in&amp;nbsp;a real&amp;nbsp;sense a counter - cultural prophet. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDGQO2KWriI/AAAAAAAACP4/O0TtVDfIe0U/s1600/IMG_3881.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" rw="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDGQO2KWriI/AAAAAAAACP4/O0TtVDfIe0U/s200/IMG_3881.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Maybe a vital aspect of ordination is that of prophet. A hard calling but in these Post- Christian days a vital one. &amp;nbsp;'Rev' highlights the&amp;nbsp;complex and difficult context&amp;nbsp;into which people are being called to ordained ministry and the real need for prophetic voices from within the 'priestly' and ministerial&amp;nbsp;culture. For me to be ordained has been about becoming not less human but more, not&amp;nbsp;so much about speaking 'truth'&amp;nbsp;but embracing the one who is truth and being shaped maybe in ways I&amp;nbsp;wasn't expecting.&amp;nbsp;Rather than finding more words to say it is becoming (at last) more about listening and when called to&amp;nbsp;speak, using fewer words with grace and courage .(haven't mastered the one point sermon yet&amp;nbsp;though working at it)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;John describes&amp;nbsp;Jesus as full &amp;nbsp;of 'grace and truth'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDNzoPYIYaI/AAAAAAAACQk/-RTWz0acmlw/s1600/IMG_5336.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="145" rw="true" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDNzoPYIYaI/AAAAAAAACQk/-RTWz0acmlw/s200/IMG_5336.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Someone the other day described to me&amp;nbsp;'grace &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; truth' as the 'Jesus trick' - what a good way of describing the ordained as those who seek to do this 'trick' and model it for others. To do&amp;nbsp;the trick though&amp;nbsp;- we need - Jesus. &lt;em&gt;Just like that!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-8858852935220788910?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/8858852935220788910/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/07/ordination-just-like-that.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/8858852935220788910'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/8858852935220788910'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/07/ordination-just-like-that.html' title='Ordination - &apos;Just like that&apos;'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TDNvFd9vXEI/AAAAAAAACQU/CHAuhVgmtzc/s72-c/IMG_5427-1.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-4707138102490626591</id><published>2010-06-26T20:30:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2010-06-26T20:45:59.493+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Compromise in the Name of Jesus</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TCZQbsSa9_I/AAAAAAAACOQ/9htEEhFsg54/s1600/IMG_3585.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" ru="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TCZQbsSa9_I/AAAAAAAACOQ/9htEEhFsg54/s200/IMG_3585.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Reading Graham Robb's book on Discovering France (holiday approacheth!). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Great read and found this: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;'The beloved village priest, the staple figure of romantic fiction, was a very rare breed. In most people's minds he was supposed to be useful, like a snake doctor or witch. The Cure of Ars is the only priest who managed to make his parishioners give up drinking and dancing. Most other priests who won the hearts of their pagan parishioners did so by reaching a quiet compromise with the pagan world. Since most of them were sons&amp;nbsp;of artisans and peasants they&amp;nbsp;shared the fears and visions of their flock.'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Put this alongside Graham Cray's comment about Fresh Expressions:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TCZRSPDWtGI/AAAAAAAACOY/8GR2SdmTPh4/s1600/IMG_3884.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" ru="true" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TCZRSPDWtGI/AAAAAAAACOY/8GR2SdmTPh4/s200/IMG_3884.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Ideally fresh expressions are planted following a process of prayerful listening, and making relationships through acts of service. But if the initial point of contact is a worship event it can only be one which it is hoped the relevant people will like, rather than one which they are involved in shaping, or which we can shape for them with greater care, because we know them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The first comment comes out of a mega Christendom context (18th century 'catholic' France though I don't think disimilar from&amp;nbsp;'protestant' UK). The second from a Post Christendom context (21st century UK).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;There is something in me that resonates with the concept of the Christian leader and community coming from the real world and having a healthy concept of compromise in the name of Jesus.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;'He sits and eats with sinners etc'&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Jesus was prepared to pay the ultimate for being misunderstood and compromising. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TCZR3g--CYI/AAAAAAAACOg/k5s_ZvwxLGg/s1600/IMG_3915.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" ru="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TCZR3g--CYI/AAAAAAAACOg/k5s_ZvwxLGg/s200/IMG_3915.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;GC's comments just remind me that whereas &lt;strong&gt;C&lt;/strong&gt;hurch &lt;strong&gt;A&lt;/strong&gt;s &lt;strong&gt;W&lt;/strong&gt;e &lt;strong&gt;K&lt;/strong&gt;now &lt;strong&gt;I&lt;/strong&gt;t tends to start with a modified version of CAWKI (&lt;em&gt;'Let's invite them in to what they think they would like, becuase we do really...'&lt;/em&gt;), maybe to work with the 'quiet compromise' issue and be with people for a while where they are, is God's way forward as we enter a Post Mixed Economy era.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;'Presence is such a delicious word.'&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-4707138102490626591?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/4707138102490626591/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/06/compromise-in-name-of-jesus.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/4707138102490626591'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/4707138102490626591'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/06/compromise-in-name-of-jesus.html' title='Compromise in the Name of Jesus'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TCZQbsSa9_I/AAAAAAAACOQ/9htEEhFsg54/s72-c/IMG_3585.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-3737406921966807509</id><published>2010-06-19T20:06:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-06-19T20:06:42.120+01:00</updated><title type='text'>“The best thing to hold onto in life is each other.” Audrey Hepburn</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TB0GorPUvEI/AAAAAAAACNw/ikHBbmF1caQ/s1600/IMG_5368.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="187" qu="true" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TB0GorPUvEI/AAAAAAAACNw/ikHBbmF1caQ/s200/IMG_5368.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;It's been a tough old week on number of fronts. I shan't bore you with details - we all have our personal issues to work through. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The lovely Audrey Hepburn said: “The best thing to hold onto in life is each other.”&amp;nbsp; Reminds me that without good friends and loving relationships - life becomes&amp;nbsp;just a struggle. Yesterday I met up with friends from Bristol days and immediately felt a bit better. Another friend has just phoned and again I feel more hopeful. Sheryl is very grateful that others supplement the love, understanding and care she pours into my life. Thank God for&amp;nbsp;the hugs, smiles, listening ears and an understanding spirit.&amp;nbsp;These friends ask me&amp;nbsp;'what can we do?' I could give them&amp;nbsp;a wish list but for me it&amp;nbsp;is enough to know that&amp;nbsp;people are there and care enough to take time out of really busy schedules to spend a couple of hours every now and then to listen to and sit with&amp;nbsp;'poor old me'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I also want to thank God for Facebook, Skype and all the other means by which people can receive love, encouragement, prayer&amp;nbsp;and share it with others. An enhancement to community for some&amp;nbsp;but for others&amp;nbsp;I am sure the closest they may get to it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TB0G-us0lTI/AAAAAAAACN4/lflKbUXno2I/s1600/IMG_5418.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" qu="true" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TB0G-us0lTI/AAAAAAAACN4/lflKbUXno2I/s320/IMG_5418.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The pictures used on this blog were taken in and around Turville - Dibley - to many people. Quotes come to mind like: &lt;em&gt;"Wouldn't it be lovely if some kittens were born with pink fur and you didn't actually have to paint them yourself?" 'Things have to change. Look at traffic lights.' &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes - it was a show about the church - but to be honest its continuing popularity rests in it being about diverse, (and then some), people in community taking precedence over the institution. More often than not the Vicar is the one who goes out on a limb to underline the fact that community matters more than tradition and building.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TB0S4YAuqvI/AAAAAAAACOI/bkdDJMk-iOk/s1600/IMG_5423.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="106" qu="true" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TB0S4YAuqvI/AAAAAAAACOI/bkdDJMk-iOk/s200/IMG_5423.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Why do I write all this? Simply because I believe that the institutional church will cease to have any real meaning for people, (whether members or non-members),&amp;nbsp;unless it enables and releases its leaders and 'members'&amp;nbsp;to focus on building and enbaling 'community' without having to spend more and more time keeping various 'shows on the road'. The stories I hear from leaders who struggle with this and feel&amp;nbsp;more and more disillusioned are getting more frequent. Like other leaders I know the&amp;nbsp;personal struggle here in Hounslow is not that there aren't people who want to focus on building a sustainable Christ Centred&amp;nbsp;Mission Community,&amp;nbsp;but there are those - both within and 'on high'&amp;nbsp;who seem to feel that other 'things' are more important. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TB0HjXVUsUI/AAAAAAAACOA/yRkGFsQjxpw/s1600/IMG_5401.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" qu="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TB0HjXVUsUI/AAAAAAAACOA/yRkGFsQjxpw/s200/IMG_5401.JPG" width="196" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;It is a real spiritual battle and often personally demanding.&amp;nbsp;It is the battle for the soul of a national church that declares its aspiration to be&amp;nbsp;a church for the non-member and has as its strap line 'a Christian presence in every community'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Presence is such a delicious word! &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-3737406921966807509?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/3737406921966807509/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/06/best-thing-to-hold-onto-in-life-is-each.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/3737406921966807509'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/3737406921966807509'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/06/best-thing-to-hold-onto-in-life-is-each.html' title='“The best thing to hold onto in life is each other.” Audrey Hepburn'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TB0GorPUvEI/AAAAAAAACNw/ikHBbmF1caQ/s72-c/IMG_5368.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-1796102679834290118</id><published>2010-06-11T17:30:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-06-11T17:30:11.406+01:00</updated><title type='text'>World Cup Spirituality</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Many thanks to all those who commented on my last blog. I found your comments and thoughts both moving and challenging. Let's keep sharing..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TBJgrh8DFcI/AAAAAAAACNE/oNM1T5d7HSw/s1600/IMG_2964.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" qu="true" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TBJgrh8DFcI/AAAAAAAACNE/oNM1T5d7HSw/s320/IMG_2964.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I am indebted to my friend and colleague in Bristol days - Bishop Lee of Swindon. He made a comment on his blog about the clash of Diocesan meetings with World Cup matches and that they had noticed a rise in apologies for absence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;My reaction is --- 'well done' all those who have put the World Cup first. And well done to the Diocese of Bristol for changing dates accordingly. (maybe having Bishops who love the beautiful game helps). It shows me that there are leaders somewhere who don't just see things like the World Cup as something to give Christ Followers 'trips of the guilties' about (what matters most... 'our meetings or the game' - yeah right) or even see them as evangelistic opportunities (which they are - he said quickly) but see these life events as simply that - being normal and being human. Now if we can cancel any meetings we have that coincide with World Cup meetings and maybe spend the time watching with friends or at the pub - well maybe we're going some way to address the issues I have been talking about in previous blogs. But I bet as church we won't!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TBJhiFIuZ7I/AAAAAAAACNM/G-oPrPAmcH0/s1600/IMG_2987.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="125" qu="true" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TBJhiFIuZ7I/AAAAAAAACNM/G-oPrPAmcH0/s200/IMG_2987.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;My comment to Bishop Lee on his blog was this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;One of the most memorable occasions for me in Bristol was leading a Readers Retreat which coincided with that Rugby match. We all stopped and had a glorious few hours watching and celebrating – myself and the Reader from Kington Langley doing a dance at the famous kick. The Retreat went like a dream after that….&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TBJfgbdcHhI/AAAAAAAACMw/-nGEzvjD1os/s1600/IMG_3055.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" qu="true" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TBJfgbdcHhI/AAAAAAAACMw/-nGEzvjD1os/s200/IMG_3055.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;I can also remember an ordination retreat during the last World Cup where we all gathered with Bishop Mike and watched a key match. Some of the ordinands went and did other things and some had their toe nails painted ... it was a highly spiritual few days enhanced by normal human relational activity. Surely a vital Christian principle.&amp;nbsp;(Any Bishops and DDO's reading please take note).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;You never know even 'church as we know it' might flow a bit better if we became more normal.....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-1796102679834290118?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/1796102679834290118/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/06/world-cup-spirituality.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/1796102679834290118'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/1796102679834290118'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/06/world-cup-spirituality.html' title='World Cup Spirituality'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TBJgrh8DFcI/AAAAAAAACNE/oNM1T5d7HSw/s72-c/IMG_2964.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-6657779672043931391</id><published>2010-06-07T20:04:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2010-06-07T20:05:52.250+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Rambles on the Railway.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TAsNfatabuI/AAAAAAAACMQ/PVDSwkwkvTs/s1600/IMG_4915.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" gu="true" height="126" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TAsNfatabuI/AAAAAAAACMQ/PVDSwkwkvTs/s200/IMG_4915.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Writing this having&amp;nbsp;just got on a train. I followed the driver who had just brought it in as he walked up to the other end of the platform to take us to Paddington. As he did so he greeted staff members who reciprocated warmly as if they were greeting a long lost friend. A friend and warm colleague he obviously is - everyone wanted to shake the guy's hand. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;My experience with the Weddings Project shows that what people 'out there'&amp;nbsp;want in 'Vicars' (as all church leaders, whatever their denomination or ordination status,&amp;nbsp;are called)&amp;nbsp;above everything else is a&amp;nbsp;warm and inclusive human being. Someone who likes people beyond the church door&amp;nbsp;and enjoys being with them. I have said all this before as you know, but what has made me say it again is receiving responses from quite a number of people to my last blog. It all resonates with me. The church agenda - especially an agenda that is confused, unrealistic and multi- expectational - will simply crowd out the time a 'Vicar' needs to work on the fringe that comes with their God given&amp;nbsp;role in the wider community. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TAsOtUUSYGI/AAAAAAAACMg/2RMDcSPk9ec/s1600/IMG_5034.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" gu="true" height="160" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TAsOtUUSYGI/AAAAAAAACMg/2RMDcSPk9ec/s200/IMG_5034.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;A&amp;nbsp;stalwart MU member&amp;nbsp;of a group of rural parishes in Worcestershire remarked to me that although she wanted her Vicar to spend more time beyond the church door, she was sceptical whether other church members would welcome it. Some churches make it clear that they do not want the&amp;nbsp;leaders time being spent outside the church. This can get disguised and theologised into phrases like 'developing every member ministry' or 'having a heart for pastoral ministry'. Nothing wrong with&amp;nbsp;what those phrases stand for but Church leaders do need space to model and practice&amp;nbsp;God's call in&amp;nbsp;Jesus to hang around with the 'non - member'.&amp;nbsp;Many church people have simply lost the art and are unable to connect faith even with those they live and work with. People need to be &lt;strong&gt;led out&lt;/strong&gt; rather than to be cajoled into bringing people &lt;strong&gt;in&lt;/strong&gt; all the time.&amp;nbsp;We don't need more courses but opportunity to develop more confidence in being &lt;strong&gt;in God with people&lt;/strong&gt;.The Jesus 'trick' as I call it. &amp;nbsp;In many cases it is simply the weight of internal agendas and expectations often related to buildings and general 'keeping the show on the road stuff that keeps us apart.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TA1AhmbPocI/AAAAAAAACMo/me6qTxf7MWE/s1600/IMG_5127.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="138" qu="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TA1AhmbPocI/AAAAAAAACMo/me6qTxf7MWE/s200/IMG_5127.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I am waiting for the clergy job profile that says as a key value - 'prefers to spend time with non- members where they are, loves hanging out and partying with sinners, would prefer to spend Sunday in the sports centre/coffee shop&amp;nbsp;than in church etc etc;' &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;This would really be post mixed economy church... and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;church that &lt;strong&gt;really&lt;/strong&gt; believes in being one for the non- member. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-6657779672043931391?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/6657779672043931391/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/06/rambles-on-railway.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6657779672043931391'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6657779672043931391'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/06/rambles-on-railway.html' title='Rambles on the Railway.'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TAsNfatabuI/AAAAAAAACMQ/PVDSwkwkvTs/s72-c/IMG_4915.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-7978811283852268755</id><published>2010-06-01T19:06:00.019+01:00</published><updated>2010-06-03T07:45:22.777+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Presence is such a delicious word....</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TAVH35yAHBI/AAAAAAAACLI/XGYN69p6xrU/s1600/IMG_4489.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" gu="true" height="133" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TAVH35yAHBI/AAAAAAAACLI/XGYN69p6xrU/s200/IMG_4489.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;'Presence is such a delicious word'&lt;/strong&gt; says Gordon Fee, someone I believe, who has probably done more than most to explore what that word means in terms of Biblical theology. God's presence in what we consider to be 'place' is key to understanding the Biblical narrative. 'The Word became a human being and moved into the neighbourhood...' is how Eugene Peterson expresses John 1: 14 - probably the most&amp;nbsp;important verse in the Bible from the Christian perspective. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I am an Anglican type Christian&amp;nbsp;because I believe the presence of God in&amp;nbsp;the neighbourhood&amp;nbsp;-&amp;nbsp;is something that matters to us. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;As I write this the news is unfolding about 12 people being killed by a gunman in West Cumbria. Apart from key people like Police officers, local leaders&amp;nbsp;and GP's, others being interviewed are local clergy. At times like this the Church is seen as an organisation that belongs to the&amp;nbsp;community and can express the deep feelings of local people. These sort of occasions remind us that in some parts of the country our call as church to be connected to people in place and culture is still recognised and welcomed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The C of E&amp;nbsp;is still an organisation that wants to connect with local communities (however that is defined)&amp;nbsp;but is unsure how to continue to do this. This call to 'Contextually sensitive mission' (Dan Hardy) is&amp;nbsp;I think under threat.&amp;nbsp;Externally the world has changed which means we have a very real issue relating to sustainability and growth.&amp;nbsp;Internally we don't have the courage and vision where it is needed to&amp;nbsp;make tough decisions which will tackle this issue. If you cannot the sustain the mission and grow it, then you have to look to your structure, staffing and your buildings. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TAVKyOdxMDI/AAAAAAAACLQ/uLb1XQZF3Tg/s1600/IMG_4496.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" gu="true" height="133" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TAVKyOdxMDI/AAAAAAAACLQ/uLb1XQZF3Tg/s200/IMG_4496.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The church because it is an &lt;span class="goog-spellcheck-word"&gt;incarnational&lt;/span&gt; organisation, so we keep saying to ourselves,&amp;nbsp;means more about people and a presence in the neighbourhoodd than buildings. I am not saying close all the buildings but let the call to mission presence shape decisions about&amp;nbsp;what buildings and structures we need and can afford.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The present mantra of 'Mixed economy' seems to be expressed in terms of 'please keep our buildings and traditions goings - and by the way - make us grow, attract children and youth, make more money to pay our Diocesan share and develop a fresh expression or three'&amp;nbsp;etc &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;This is not a 'whinge' and I am sorry to sound a tad cynical.&amp;nbsp;I say this because for various reaosns I have seen a number of job profiles recently for both Diocesan and Parish roles. I just want to see a rational and sensible discussion about sustainability and growth. The sort of discussion&amp;nbsp;I have in another sector in which I am involved. In that sector we will not be allowed to keep things as they are. Change is not an option.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TAVLlQIGsBI/AAAAAAAACLY/ZqlgPfC1w0o/s1600/IMG_3909.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" gu="true" height="133" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TAVLlQIGsBI/AAAAAAAACLY/ZqlgPfC1w0o/s200/IMG_3909.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Do I think that&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;C of E is in danger of losing the vision of church as community&amp;nbsp;for the 'non- member'. I am not sure - maybe you can help me with this. If we think we can keep buildings and structures as they are we are seriously deluding ourselves.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Please &lt;span class="goog-spellcheck-word"&gt;Cof E&lt;/span&gt; grasp this nettle - it is about who we are called to be. Presence is such a delicious word.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-7978811283852268755?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/7978811283852268755/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/06/presence-is-such-delicous-word.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/7978811283852268755'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/7978811283852268755'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/06/presence-is-such-delicous-word.html' title='Presence is such a delicious word....'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/TAVH35yAHBI/AAAAAAAACLI/XGYN69p6xrU/s72-c/IMG_4489.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-6193728964096080947</id><published>2010-05-27T17:12:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2010-05-28T13:29:15.229+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Opening the circle....</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_6XNVevoBI/AAAAAAAACC8/XNIO31rMYkU/s1600/IMG_4083.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" gu="true" height="76" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_6XNVevoBI/AAAAAAAACC8/XNIO31rMYkU/s200/IMG_4083.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I am sorry for no blog until now. Some maybe rejoicing so apologies for disturbing you.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Came across this the other day. It is based on Brian McClaren's writing. He is someone like Rob Bell - if you &lt;em&gt;Google&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;the name&amp;nbsp;you are more likely to find first all those who&amp;nbsp;think they are&amp;nbsp;heretics, traitors to the evangelical cause. misguided, downright evil etc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Anyway Ten questions which he&amp;nbsp;thinks every person serious about following Jesus should explore? Here goes...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;1.What is the overarching story line of the Bible?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_6ZNT7oQOI/AAAAAAAACDE/Ze3i4usLqHA/s1600/IMG_3656.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" gu="true" height="120" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_6ZNT7oQOI/AAAAAAAACDE/Ze3i4usLqHA/s200/IMG_3656.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;2.How should the Bible be understood?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;3.Is God violent?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;4.Who is Jesus and why is he important?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;5.What is the Gospel?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;6.What do we do about the Church?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;7.Can we find a way to address human sexuality without fighting about it?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;8.Can we find a better way of viewing the future?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;9.How should followers of Jesus relate to people of other religions?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;10.How can we translate our quest into action?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;McClaren does spend time in his book &lt;em&gt;'A New Kind of Christianity, Ten Questions that are transforming the Faith'&amp;nbsp;&lt;/em&gt; looking more closely at these questions and what it means to be a Disciple of Jesus. I welcome the openness about this sort of journey and although I might not always agree, I think the approach is so refreshing. If you are serious about being a disciple of Jesus then maybe working through these questions will help you - I hope so. You may have some of your own - then please share them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_6WpmwV5OI/AAAAAAAACC0/YXLQKcCAAWU/s1600/IMG_4081.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" gu="true" height="181" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_6WpmwV5OI/AAAAAAAACC0/YXLQKcCAAWU/s200/IMG_4081.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Found this quote which resonates so strongly about how I&amp;nbsp;believe I am&amp;nbsp;called to follow Jesus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;He drew a circle that shut me out&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;But love and I had the wit to win;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;We drew a circle that took him in.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-6193728964096080947?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/6193728964096080947/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/05/opening-circle.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6193728964096080947'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6193728964096080947'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/05/opening-circle.html' title='Opening the circle....'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_6XNVevoBI/AAAAAAAACC8/XNIO31rMYkU/s72-c/IMG_4083.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-3190332522927235446</id><published>2010-05-16T20:52:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-05-16T20:52:53.533+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Through different eyes...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_BMIxR4H4I/AAAAAAAAB9o/8i5dTzcVmDw/s1600/IMG_3822.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_BMIxR4H4I/AAAAAAAAB9o/8i5dTzcVmDw/s200/IMG_3822.JPG" width="200" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I am writing this surrounded by fields of wild flowers, trees and rows of vines. Nope - not Hounslow but the countryside around Bergerac in the Dordogne. We travelled from here to the Abbaye at Belloc in the foothills of the Pyrenees where I was leading the annual retreat for the Anglican Chaplaincy based in Bordeaux and the Dordogne. The Chaplain is my dear friend Paul Vrolijk - one of my ordination candidates from Bristol days. What an interesting life he, his wife Janine&amp;nbsp;and four beautiful children lead here. They are a Dutch family ministering to groups of Anglican christians (generally English) and the children go to the local french primary schoool! I am deeply humbled by their commitment and passion to serve God in this context and seek to&amp;nbsp;connect the Good News, not just to the many English people who live in this part of the world, but also to local communities. Paul and I spent time on Friday night discussing aspects of Old Testament theology that had been sparked off by the sessions I had led with those on retreat. On Saturday night we did the same - except the subject was a bit more high brow. Ranging from Tommy Cooper, Al Murray, Jack Dee, Michael McIntyre etc&amp;nbsp;How much English and Dutch humour is so alike!??? How we laughed.... it was a real tonic to be honest. Some of the jokes we shared were not particularly PC but for a large fee I will share them with you!!! The journey back from Belloc was the same, except we had Caroline Gordon Walker with us - another ordained person, so the jokes and laughter was even more raucous. Caroline threatened to record the conversation and sell it to the highest bidder...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_BM3bDHC5I/AAAAAAAAB9w/JJKuYLvglgs/s1600/IMG_3833.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_BM3bDHC5I/AAAAAAAAB9w/JJKuYLvglgs/s200/IMG_3833.JPG" width="200" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;After the Eucharist, which was led so simply and beautifully by the monks and nuns together with a large congregation of all ages, one of the monks 'hi-jacked me' and showed me around the monks quarters. He showed me some of their treasures - a crucifix that dates back to the 14th century and was dug up in a field, and a wooden carving that was of a similar age. Myself, Paul and Michael (Good News down the Street) Wooderson were invited last night to share with the monks. They were really interested about the Anglican church, womens ordination and even the sessions I was leading. They laughed so much when they suddenly realised I was the English priest who they inadvertently locked out last year. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;I have cried a lot these past few days. Tears of laughter, tears of gratitude for the love and welcome I have been given by Paul's community and also the love and grace shown by the monks. Also at the prayer and concern shown to myself and Sheryl as we look to the future. All are welcome at the&amp;nbsp;Altar in the Abbey,&amp;nbsp;and at the&amp;nbsp;Eucharist we shared last night around the dinner table the Abbot came and shared bread and wine with us.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_BL4APIIZI/AAAAAAAAB9g/xzbWUS-lefA/s1600/IMG_3669.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_BL4APIIZI/AAAAAAAAB9g/xzbWUS-lefA/s200/IMG_3669.JPG" width="200" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;Laughter, welcome, hospitality, tears, prayer, unity deeper than words can express, joy in simple 'human' things, shared conversation, challenge in the context of relationship and grace, eucharist as table fellowship&amp;nbsp;- surely the world seen through different eyes. Dare I say - community that has the potential to transform and offer a hope and future to all.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-3190332522927235446?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/3190332522927235446/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/05/through-different-eyes.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/3190332522927235446'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/3190332522927235446'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/05/through-different-eyes.html' title='Through different eyes...'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S_BMIxR4H4I/AAAAAAAAB9o/8i5dTzcVmDw/s72-c/IMG_3822.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-6552094086227901076</id><published>2010-05-10T16:44:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-05-10T16:44:09.206+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Grace..... and truth???????? Help......</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-gh11byysI/AAAAAAAAB7o/xNLLjehYqrY/s1600/IMG_2547.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="171" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-gh11byysI/AAAAAAAAB7o/xNLLjehYqrY/s200/IMG_2547.JPG" tt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Full of Grace and Truth&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I have just read an Ordained&amp;nbsp;leader's&amp;nbsp;parish letter on hearing a message on John 1 and it has left me really anxious- and I need help to understand why.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The comment was something along the lines of: &lt;em&gt;'We must be gracious but need to remember that we have to speak truth so it is not as if anything goes'.&lt;/em&gt; Why does my stomach do a somersault at this point?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Reflecting on this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-gkmLJK3HI/AAAAAAAAB8I/fCEGwtul14s/s1600/IMG_2592.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-gkmLJK3HI/AAAAAAAAB8I/fCEGwtul14s/s200/IMG_2592.JPG" tt="true" width="198" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I don't understand&lt;/strong&gt; what&amp;nbsp;this comment&amp;nbsp;really means?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I,&amp;nbsp;as a Christ Follower,&lt;/strong&gt; simply don't know what it means&amp;nbsp;to be full of grace &lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt; truth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Help!!!!!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Some of us are&lt;/strong&gt; more comfortable with what we&amp;nbsp;understand to be truth, and then feel that grace means to find the nicest (we hope)&amp;nbsp;possible means to encourage others to agree with us.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We are not secure&lt;/strong&gt; enough to allow the One who is grace and truth to work in the relationship and dialogue - (pre- supposing those of us who hold onto 'truth' have those sort of relationships&amp;nbsp;anyway).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We believe change&lt;/strong&gt; is about what we do &lt;strong&gt;to&lt;/strong&gt; others rather than what the Holy Spirit does when a person is in a relationship with Jesus. (though of course we really believe this)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;We believe change&lt;/strong&gt; is what the &lt;strong&gt;Holy Spirit&lt;/strong&gt; in&amp;nbsp;a Christ Follower&amp;nbsp;does, as long&amp;nbsp;it conforms to what we believe the truth is, which of course may be right, but we need to give him a helping hand in case he doesn't do it&amp;nbsp; a) in our timescale b) according to the rules (ours and those&amp;nbsp;in our church - which secretly we may disagree with.. c) answers on a post card&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-glxVRS17I/AAAAAAAAB8Q/UJWxugVblgs/s1600/IMG_2647.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="143" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-glxVRS17I/AAAAAAAAB8Q/UJWxugVblgs/s200/IMG_2647.JPG" tt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;My starter for 10 is that I think we need to work at some basic rules of relationship, listening and dialogue - maybe even feel what Jesus felt when he met people - and then work it out from there.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I am work in process on this - so any thoughts welcome.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Maybe somersualts are not my thing and I should stick to trampolining. (I have discovered that trampolines with walls are on offer in ASDA at the moment!!???)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-ghdLNFrNI/AAAAAAAAB7g/B9o2ULKR0jM/s1600/IMG_2579.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-ghdLNFrNI/AAAAAAAAB7g/B9o2ULKR0jM/s200/IMG_2579.JPG" tt="true" width="172" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Off to France tomorrow to share thoughts on looking at the world through&amp;nbsp;different eyes,&amp;nbsp;with some lovely Anglican Christians&amp;nbsp;who form part of the Aquitaine Chaplaincy. The monks at Belloc (Pyrenees) where we meet,&amp;nbsp;last&amp;nbsp;year forgot I was coming early, so I spent the night in an out house watching 'Frasier' dvds. Could be worse and they made up for it afterwards.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;So this year I think they are looking out for me. Oooer....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-6552094086227901076?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/6552094086227901076/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/05/grace-and-truth-help.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6552094086227901076'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6552094086227901076'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/05/grace-and-truth-help.html' title='Grace..... and truth???????? Help......'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-gh11byysI/AAAAAAAAB7o/xNLLjehYqrY/s72-c/IMG_2547.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-9155845849174112687</id><published>2010-05-05T22:15:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-05-05T22:15:09.740+01:00</updated><title type='text'>May God bless you with discomfort at easy answers, half-truths, and superficial relationships, so that you may live deep within your heart.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-HWsBGisAI/AAAAAAAAB1g/sT8dR0aZhds/s1600/IMG_3423.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-HWsBGisAI/AAAAAAAAB1g/sT8dR0aZhds/s200/IMG_3423.JPG" tt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Great time with students and staff at Moorlands Bible College this week. It is a real privilege to speak to people from different life contexts who are following God's call on their lives - often at great cost and sometimes major life change. I shared with them this&amp;nbsp;Franciscan prayer It really says so much and is not totally unrelated from the events of Election Thursday.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;May God bless you with discomfort at easy answers, half-truths, and superficial relationships, so that you may live deep within your heart.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;May God bless you with anger at injustice, oppression, and exploitation of people, so that you may work for justice, freedom, and peace.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;May God bless you with tears to shed for those who suffer pain, rejection, hunger, and war, so that you may reach out your hand to comfort them and to turn their pain into joy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;And may God bless you with enough foolishness to believe that you can make a difference in the world, so that you can do what others claim cannot be done.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-HXzPdycbI/AAAAAAAAB1o/Bg49DKhHR1Q/s1600/IMG_3468.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-HXzPdycbI/AAAAAAAAB1o/Bg49DKhHR1Q/s200/IMG_3468.JPG" tt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;A great book I've started to read: &lt;strong&gt;'Love is an orientation' by Andrew Marin&lt;/strong&gt;. I said a few weeks ago that 'Post Mixed Economy' church will need to express values in the context of relationship and conversation. This book seeks to elevate the conversation with special regard to the gay community. In fact I think for some Christians it will challenge them to stop judging and repent of prejudice and&amp;nbsp;actually see that the demands of divine love is that we seek to have more open-ended conversations that focus on understanding one another’s stories and drawing one another closer to God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;In Hounslow we do have requests from church groups to come and use the space in front of the church building to share the Good News. Sadly it usually means they shout at people their version of the Good News and sing&amp;nbsp;worship songs badly.&amp;nbsp;It&amp;nbsp;becomes something more akin to 'boundary marker religion' as J. G. Dunn put it and can be a&amp;nbsp;a bit of max 'cringe' factor.&amp;nbsp;As Andrew Marin said to a conference of church leaders recently: &lt;em&gt;'Friends, I plead with you today that you stop being a gatekeeper and start acting like Jesus.'&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I know some Christians find the judgements made in our courts and the arrest of a street preacher this past week are a sign of the demise of the UK as a Christian nation. We need to discover how we can continue to make a difference in the context of being with people where they are. Easy to say I know but something about 'becoming a human being and moved into the neighbourhood' comes to mind.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-Hc2wcABvI/AAAAAAAAB34/qbGVHRxNkRQ/s1600/IMG_3383.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-Hc2wcABvI/AAAAAAAAB34/qbGVHRxNkRQ/s320/IMG_3383.JPG" tt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;And to end. I am not saying who I shall vote for, (some who know me will have guessed anyway), but&amp;nbsp;I still think it&amp;nbsp;is an amazing privilege to put our cross against a name. For Chist Followers it is a cross in more senses than one.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-9155845849174112687?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/9155845849174112687/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/05/may-god-bless-you-with-discomfort-at.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/9155845849174112687'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/9155845849174112687'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/05/may-god-bless-you-with-discomfort-at.html' title='May God bless you with discomfort at easy answers, half-truths, and superficial relationships, so that you may live deep within your heart.'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S-HWsBGisAI/AAAAAAAAB1g/sT8dR0aZhds/s72-c/IMG_3423.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-6277638388118532795</id><published>2010-04-24T22:15:00.002+01:00</published><updated>2010-04-26T08:39:19.633+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Walls or Trampolines.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S9NXVhzos5I/AAAAAAAABwU/vGAMms4FEis/s1600/IMG_2859.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="150" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S9NXVhzos5I/AAAAAAAABwU/vGAMms4FEis/s200/IMG_2859.JPG" tt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I was pleased that my last blog was picked up by the wider church and a verson of it maybe put on the Fresh Expressions web site. Will keep you posted. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Last Sunday we had a number of people in the congregation who were from other parts of the globe and were simply stuck at Heathrow - so came to a local church and found us. One guy was a pastor from an evangelical 'Bible based' church in Dallas, Texas. He really&amp;nbsp;struck by the message I gave on 'recovering from stattered dreams'. We had a great conversation about the need for God's love&amp;nbsp;to be really inclusive. It became obvious that he came from an evangelical church that was a bit different. Going onto their church website I realised I had entered a strange world. A world of orthodox belief&amp;nbsp; but expressed less in terms of solid walls but more like Rob Bell's (Velvet Elvis) 'trampoline'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;For me the future of church doesn't begin with outward form but the way we look at belief. 'Church as we know it' has been shaped by doctrinal statements. 'I believe in THE Church' says so much. However I think in a more network and less solid context we need to engage with people in more open, conversational and&amp;nbsp;less 'sure'&amp;nbsp;ways.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S9NZEK5SRHI/AAAAAAAABwc/wL_mdXuF0K8/s1600/IMG_3015.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S9NZEK5SRHI/AAAAAAAABwc/wL_mdXuF0K8/s200/IMG_3015.JPG" tt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Rob Bell's trampoline floats my boat in this regard. Someone who had read 'Velvet Elvis' said to me that if Rob Bell didn't exist they would have to invent him. I think I understand and resonate with that. When you begin to wonder about whether the church is really what God had in mind, (and don't worry even the great and the good have wondered this), and when you start asking tough questions about your faith (like they do in the Bible from time to time), you can quickly find yourself in a very lonely place. We all need 'Thomas' in our lives who gives us permission to see that questions are essential to an authentic Christian life. I think people like Rob Bell offer a gateway for those of us who want to walk in 'the Way'&amp;nbsp;and continue to&amp;nbsp;make a differerence for God&amp;nbsp;in the world.we inhabit. Jesus is on our side with this as he happens to live 'in the neighbourhood' anyway.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S9NbDI46HrI/AAAAAAAABwk/jMqS8AUqVN4/s1600/IMG_0946.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S9NbDI46HrI/AAAAAAAABwk/jMqS8AUqVN4/s200/IMG_0946.JPG" tt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;But Malcolm, (I hear you cry),&amp;nbsp;what is this trampoline business all about?&amp;nbsp;Bell begins his book with an analogy comparing&amp;nbsp;traditional style faith to brick walls. With a brick wall, if you pull out just a few bricks, (a&amp;nbsp;doctrine here, a faith statement there plus a lifestyle issue for good measure),&amp;nbsp;the whole thing will crumble down around you. This is why some of us get very upset when you question even a little, non-central tenet of&amp;nbsp;our belief or practice, let alone something a bit more central.&amp;nbsp;If you pull out any brick, no matter how peripheral, you threaten the stability of faith.&amp;nbsp;The wall&amp;nbsp;appears quite strong and rigid, but if you begin to rethink or discuss even one brick, the whole&amp;nbsp;edifice wobbles.&amp;nbsp; You go to the web and google Rob Bell for instance and you will see plenty of examples of people who see their faith in this way. One person believes that if you reject a literal understanding of the Creation story then in some strange feat of logic you cannot believe Jesus died on the Cross for the salvation of the world! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;On the other hand, those with a more flexible understanding and approach&amp;nbsp;to faith jump on a trampoline. You can remove a doctrine or view of life&amp;nbsp;(a spring that holds the trampoline) and the trampoline will still function. You can continue, with others,&amp;nbsp;to jump on the trampoline. You can continue to follow your beliefs, even if one part of them has been shaken or destroyed. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The big problem for me with 'brickianity' is that walls are inflexible and inevitably keep people out. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;When the wall becomes the sum total of the beliefs God becomes as big or as small as the wall. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;People start comparing and defending their walls. Often it appears as though you have to agree with all of the bricks exactly as they are or you can’t join. Maybe you have been outside the wall before and even feel as if you're there now. The good news is that many of us know what it's like to be there and hey -we have discovered a God who loves being outside that wall with us.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S9Nb89Xi7yI/AAAAAAAABws/IoWSkxmmZDU/s1600/IMG_2767.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S9Nb89Xi7yI/AAAAAAAABws/IoWSkxmmZDU/s200/IMG_2767.JPG" tt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;For Rob Bell Christian experience is the art of questioning God. As he says: &lt;em&gt;'Not belligerent, arrogant questions that have no respect for our Maker, but naked, honest, vulnerable, raw questions arising out of the awe that comes from engaging the living God. This type of questioning frees us. Frees us from having it all figured out. Frees us from having answers to everything. Frees us from having to be right. It allows us to have moments when we come to the end of our ability to comprehend. Moments when the silence is enough.'&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I love that thought of being freed from having&amp;nbsp;to be right and to have the right answer. Maybe&amp;nbsp;this truth will set us free to live and to love as Jesus did a bit more... freely.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;There will be people around us who don't believe or 'do' the 'right' things and thank God for them&amp;nbsp;and times when those of 'firm' faith will lose a few springs - but let's keep on jumping together and enjoying being loved and accepted. A trampoline has springs&amp;nbsp;but it also has a frame. God in Jesus keeps us all intact.... analogies are not perfect so I'll stop now before this one totally collapses - metaphorically speaking!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Let me end with the mission statement from my new found friend's church in Texas:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;'A&amp;nbsp;safe place where anyone can attend and find God's love and acceptance. Christianity and organized religion have been riddled with debate and nuance over the issue of "who's in and who's not." It is my desire for our Church community&amp;nbsp;not to become mired in these issues, but to simply declare that the Love of God is available for everyone '(John 3:16).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S9NdYR1_PpI/AAAAAAAABw0/fQcm6s2I4tI/s1600/IMG_3057.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S9NdYR1_PpI/AAAAAAAABw0/fQcm6s2I4tI/s200/IMG_3057.JPG" tt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;Let me know what you think. The trampoline image may not work for you - that's fine -&amp;nbsp;it is not a firm belief! You may have more helpful images or views to share. How do you see belief? Be great to hear from you.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-6277638388118532795?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/6277638388118532795/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/04/walls-or-trampolines.html#comment-form' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6277638388118532795'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6277638388118532795'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/04/walls-or-trampolines.html' title='Walls or Trampolines.'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S9NXVhzos5I/AAAAAAAABwU/vGAMms4FEis/s72-c/IMG_2859.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-1037822214330239447</id><published>2010-04-16T22:26:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2010-04-22T20:26:49.552+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Denial is not just a river in Egypt.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8jTXtoXIcI/AAAAAAAABsQ/1_M_BGqaodg/s1600/IMG_2879.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="136" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8jTXtoXIcI/AAAAAAAABsQ/1_M_BGqaodg/s200/IMG_2879.JPG" width="200" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The last few days have been very quiet aound our part of West London.&lt;/strong&gt; Suddenly thousands of people have become fans of&amp;nbsp;a volcano beneath Iceland's Eyjafjallajokull, (ay-yah-FYAH'-plah-yer-kuh-duhl - apparently!). Let's hear it for lava that's what I say. But not all appreciate the quiet - some people I oevrheard on the bus today were saying that they found it all a bit too quiet and 'spooky'. They have got used to the having the equivalent of the M25 over their heads. Without it things&amp;nbsp;are not normal and 'as they should be'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;This reminded me of the definition of 'culture' as ' the way we do things round here' usually expressed in terms of 'that's not the way we do things round here' or 'we've not done it like that before'. Leaders ignore culture at their peril and also the fact that it is the 'big issue' in terms of change and development. The way we do things round here is not just about the obvious things - work practices, traditions and customs but the less obvious and tangible ways such as attitudes, behavioural&amp;nbsp; and relational patterns. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8jT_O_1teI/AAAAAAAABsY/PMDy8lRoo98/s1600/IMG_2843.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="132" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8jT_O_1teI/AAAAAAAABsY/PMDy8lRoo98/s200/IMG_2843.JPG" width="200" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I speak form personal experience as a leader who has had a measure of 'success' in helping organisations to change and move on, as well as experiencing the flip side of not having much apparent and immediately obvious success at all! I am not just speaking of church but also my experience in helping to shape the future development of a Higher Education institution in the West Country. Church, business, college or family - all have ways of 'doing things round here'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Lessons learnt aplenty. Some contexts are ready for change and have enough of a critical mass of people to embrace some of the hard choices and hold on to a vision during the hard times. This doesn't mean that compromises aren't needed or time scales revised - after all we are dealing with people and the way they have done things sometimes for generations. But it is&amp;nbsp;vital to hold onto the vision that will enable an organisation to be sustainable, grow and respond to the challenges of what are very fast- moving and culturally changing times. For churches the change of religious and social contexts are enormous and have far reaching implications - a bit of tweaking here and a new service there are simply not enough.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;From the Church of Englands perspective I think there are two key challenges:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8jUsbvuaNI/AAAAAAAABsg/GAkXh1c2PIg/s1600/IMG_2806.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8jUsbvuaNI/AAAAAAAABsg/GAkXh1c2PIg/s200/IMG_2806.JPG" width="200" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;To shape leaders&lt;/strong&gt; who deeply rooted in&amp;nbsp;God in Jesus&amp;nbsp;and understand the need to re-shape church culture to serve a&amp;nbsp;developing Post Christian context&amp;nbsp;and have been given training&amp;nbsp;and vision&amp;nbsp;to do this courageously,&amp;nbsp;corporately and creatively. They will also need the support, mentoring&amp;nbsp;and back up&amp;nbsp;from those in 'management' and who provide resourcing at Diocesan level. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8jVJKX4axI/AAAAAAAABso/xdjjsZiGKPI/s1600/IMG_2800.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8jVJKX4axI/AAAAAAAABso/xdjjsZiGKPI/s200/IMG_2800.JPG" width="111" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;To look beyond 'Mixed Economy'. &lt;/strong&gt;Although many agree with&amp;nbsp;the concept of a &amp;nbsp;mixed economy church, as in the tradional alongside the emerging and fresh expressions, the truth is that this can only be sustained as a vision for a limited time. David Muir down in Exeter likens&amp;nbsp;our&amp;nbsp;situation to that of countries being oil based economies. Oil is a finite resouce so it is important we move into mixed economy (gas, electric etc etc) so that we are able to make the transiion away from it. If Christendom, as the big shaping narrative or 'the way we do things round here' is on the way out, then to keep assuring existing church communities that they will continue to have a parallel existence much as they are is to create a false hope. If Christendom continues to go the way it is most of them won't as they will&amp;nbsp;find themselves&amp;nbsp;ill-equipped to be resilient and sustainable. My experience is that leaders at Diocesan and National level tend not to see it this way and even deny this is happening. To resist the closure of unsustainable buildings for example is a case in point.&amp;nbsp;Some cash strapped Dioceses, (as most are), are already cutting back on resources to&amp;nbsp;further develop emerging and fresh expressions of church. Many congregations demonstrate an anxiety and sometimes anger which can be directed to leaders who try and develop a culture of responsiveness and flexibility.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8jSZ1dc1mI/AAAAAAAABsI/-UEzD7ST6NY/s1600/IMG_2830.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8jSZ1dc1mI/AAAAAAAABsI/-UEzD7ST6NY/s200/IMG_2830.JPG" width="161" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;Denial is not just a river in Egypt as they say and to live in a state of denial leads to leaders and deeply committed Christ Followers feeling despair and worn- out. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;This is a very real issue for the church. Let's be planning now for &lt;strong&gt;Post &lt;/strong&gt;mixed economy and&amp;nbsp;shape leaders, structures&amp;nbsp;and church communities in the way we do things - then.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;Please let me have your thoughts about this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-1037822214330239447?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/1037822214330239447/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/04/denial-is-no-just-river-in-egypt.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/1037822214330239447'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/1037822214330239447'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/04/denial-is-no-just-river-in-egypt.html' title='Denial is not just a river in Egypt.'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8jTXtoXIcI/AAAAAAAABsQ/1_M_BGqaodg/s72-c/IMG_2879.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-1999063328660181834</id><published>2010-04-11T19:41:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2010-04-26T13:59:57.323+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Praise God for the (virtual) Body</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8IKJ_C9E8I/AAAAAAAABo8/pvYcCeWhWuU/s1600/Bush-1400.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="192" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8IKJ_C9E8I/AAAAAAAABo8/pvYcCeWhWuU/s320/Bush-1400.jpg" width="320" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;My proper first week back to Parish life. Mixed emotions as some of you will realise but it was great to have words of encouragement from the Bishop of Kensington and Jon and Sarah turning up for the service. It all went very well. Lots of hugs, welcome backs, laughter (not all hysterical), good conversation, prayer and worship. Yep - not everyone was waving a flag but hey 'c'est la vie' as they say.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I did have a bit of a panic leading up to Sunday. For me, at the moment, that is expressed in getting obsessive about finding a new job so I start looking at anything and needing a lot of assurance from others. And some great friends -plus Sheryl - helped me through. Praise God for the Body as we used to sing in the good old Holy Disorder days. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;All this makes me reflect on what is it we call church. I rely on people around me who offer wise counsel, common sense advice&amp;nbsp;(the most needed gift in the charismatic world methinks), a hand of relationship and a gracious&amp;nbsp;ability to tell me to 'knock it off' when required -&amp;nbsp;(in the Lord of course). People who also help me to focus on God's call upon my life, maintain perspective&amp;nbsp;and not to lose heart.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8IM5fNpXVI/AAAAAAAABpE/Y_Wt_1GXbkQ/s1600/IMG_1434.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8IM5fNpXVI/AAAAAAAABpE/Y_Wt_1GXbkQ/s200/IMG_1434.JPG" width="200" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;'At the heart of what it means to be a church is a call to enter into relationship with God and relationship with others which is meaningful, purposeful and mutually supportive and which energy can be directed to a common end.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Yet many people find it hard to discover such relationships in existing, established congregations. Something more is needed.'&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Steve Croft Transforming Communities&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I am also discovering 'community' not just amongst the local church but also among other networks and contexts. To be honest it is the way it is and maybe in our cultural context it is&amp;nbsp;a vital&amp;nbsp;way God wants to enhance and develop church.&amp;nbsp;Facebook, Blogger.com, Skype and e mail are continuing means by which God has touched me with his word and love and keeps me in touch with others. Is this your experience too and in what way does it&amp;nbsp;enhance and make more real what it means to be part of&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt; 'meaningful, purposeful and mutually supportive relationships' &lt;/em&gt;which keep us on track and in the Way?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8IR2Q28TtI/AAAAAAAABpc/mYtEutcoWBQ/s1600/IMG_1468.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8IR2Q28TtI/AAAAAAAABpc/mYtEutcoWBQ/s200/IMG_1468.JPG" width="200" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;I have always struggled with the concept of 'on line churches' though I am open to hearing other people's experiences. At St Pixels, an online community supported by the Methodist church, visitors are welcomed on the homepage with:&lt;em&gt; ‘Imagine church with no cobwebs, wooden pews, hymn books, overhead projector, leaking roof, organ fund . or even a church building .’&lt;/em&gt; (Sounds good to me...!!)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;The Diocese of Oxford has 'I church' complete with its own Parish priest. The nuns at Wantage even run virtual retreats on their website and you can join the sisters in singing the offices.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;From my understandingAll on line churches would consider themselves to be communities. Places where believers share, worship, support and seek to be Good News to others&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;One regular user of I- Church writes: &lt;em&gt;'In the online communities I belong to, we work hard at finding what we have in common, rather than what divides. I have met members of the Body of Christ who I would never meet in my ‘ordinary’ Baptist church in the North East of England. I’ve prayed with and spoken to Greek Orthodox believers, Messianic Jews, Catholics, Anglicans and American ‘fundamentalists’. I’ve rubbed virtual shoulders with Christians from all five continents. I’ve debated with atheists, conversed with agnostics and Muslims and ‘reached out’ in compassion to people who have no label for their faith at all.'&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8ISluIHpAI/AAAAAAAABpk/_ZK1uD3UTYs/s1600/IMG_1563.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8ISluIHpAI/AAAAAAAABpk/_ZK1uD3UTYs/s200/IMG_1563.JPG" width="125" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;I could bear witness to some of that and with the added value of video Skype - you can even see the people you talk to! (Some may be 'virtually' weeping at this point)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;My&amp;nbsp;reservation is centred around what it means to be a follower of the one who &lt;em&gt;'became flesh and moved into the neighbourhood.' &lt;/em&gt;To me this makes the physicality of Christ's community a bit of a given. Paul's understanding of the church as the&amp;nbsp;Body comes out of his encounter with the Risen Jesus and is subsequently 'fleshed out', quite literally&amp;nbsp;in very earthy terms. This is also rooted in the Bible's understandng of God as community and his people as a physical expression of love, grace and divine presence. Quite where breaking bread&amp;nbsp;as the Body of Christ&amp;nbsp;fits in again I am not sure. Maybe Skype video Eucharists? Please discuss.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;For many of us it will be 'both and', while for some thier 'virtual' church community, albeit a work in progress, is indeed church and does not necessarily preclude physical expression.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8IVFJSSqII/AAAAAAAABp8/_ZNlgaQ0MXk/s1600/IMG_1568.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8IVFJSSqII/AAAAAAAABp8/_ZNlgaQ0MXk/s200/IMG_1568.JPG" width="173" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The Ship of Fools 'Mystery Worshipper' commented on the after service coffee at St Pixels: &lt;em&gt;'It was virtual, but the remains of my tiramisu liqueur more than made up for it. Conversation was fun. I drifted to the cloisters to listen to and read the discussion happening there.' &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;He/She ended by commenting on &lt;em&gt;'How friendly people were, and how great it will be to be part of that community if I'm off travelling and want to touch base with Christians I know.'&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-1999063328660181834?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/1999063328660181834/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/04/praise-god-for-virtual-body.html#comment-form' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/1999063328660181834'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/1999063328660181834'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/04/praise-god-for-virtual-body.html' title='Praise God for the (virtual) Body'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S8IKJ_C9E8I/AAAAAAAABo8/pvYcCeWhWuU/s72-c/Bush-1400.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-5829589539255340792</id><published>2010-04-08T22:24:00.000+01:00</published><updated>2010-04-08T22:24:01.737+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Jesus in Disneyland</title><content type='html'>&lt;span id="goog_521745487"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="goog_521745488"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="goog_521745489"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="goog_521745490"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="goog_521745491"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="goog_521745492"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="goog_521745493"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="goog_521745494"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S74Hz2Ms_YI/AAAAAAAABns/SH_lVUG20uc/s1600/IMG_2499.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="148" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S74Hz2Ms_YI/AAAAAAAABns/SH_lVUG20uc/s200/IMG_2499.JPG" width="200" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I remember some while ago reading a book called 'Jesus in Disneyland' by David Lyon.&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;It began with the authors experience of attending a Spring Harvest type event and commenting on the fact that there seemed to be a culture of media, consumerism and celebrity surrounding all that went on.&amp;nbsp;David Lyon,&amp;nbsp;from a sociological perspective&amp;nbsp;was commenting&amp;nbsp;on how we as Christ Followers are seeking to live out and communicate the Gospel within a Post Christian consumer oriented and 'theme park' culture. His final chapter on how we seek to be authentic to Jesus in doing this, is probably where he struggles most&amp;nbsp;- which in itself says a lot - aren't we all!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;So the big question is how do we do the Jesus thing now? (Answers on a post card..)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S74IMvU_zJI/AAAAAAAABn0/VvNDpXwFa08/s1600/IMG_2494-1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="106" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S74IMvU_zJI/AAAAAAAABn0/VvNDpXwFa08/s200/IMG_2494-1.JPG" width="200" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Sheryl and I have been helping to 'person' the Spring Harvest French site stand at Minehead. It has been great fun being in 'Disneyland' - and yes Jesus was there!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I realised that we were among a number of stands,&amp;nbsp;some of which were seeking to encourage people to go to such places as&amp;nbsp;Haiti, Kenya or China to make a difference. Our task was to&amp;nbsp;encourage people to consider spending money on a holiday in France.&amp;nbsp;Slight&amp;nbsp;touch of the 'guilties' but then for many of us&amp;nbsp;times of relationship, family, recreation, inspiration, fun&amp;nbsp;and sheer 'slobbing out'&amp;nbsp;(in the Lord of course) keep us on track and in 'the Way'.&amp;nbsp;(Guilties now subdued)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S74lgN6plBI/AAAAAAAABn8/Jw2MWeIYEbg/s1600/IMG_2620.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="193" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S74lgN6plBI/AAAAAAAABn8/Jw2MWeIYEbg/s200/IMG_2620.JPG" width="200" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Opposite our stand&amp;nbsp;was a Christian music display. One afternoon a long queue formed of children and parents to have their CD purchases signed by three young women who together form a Christian equivalent of what looked like the Spice girls. Immaculately dressed and made up, they greeted and smiled at their adoring audience. I was left reflecting - what is this all about? Is this about providing 'Christian' role models, is it possible exploitation (albeit by Christians) or honestly &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;seeking to make the Gospel&amp;nbsp;relevant to young people in their cultures.... please let me have your thoughts. One rumour that came to us was that the group had just split up - (that explains the&amp;nbsp;absence of the fourth woman seen on the CD cover)&amp;nbsp;- obvioulsy more Christian than we thought!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Pete Greig - left us with a 7 point&amp;nbsp;list which for him are the marks&amp;nbsp;of being&amp;nbsp;more human, in Christ, &amp;nbsp;'in the neighbourhood'.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;I reflected afterwards that the Word became a human being not a Christian! (Discuss)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Friendship &lt;/strong&gt;(Jesus liked being with people, parties, listening etc)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Humility.&lt;/strong&gt; (Jesus saw the extraordianry in the ordinary 'out there'. 'If only I had time....')&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Pace &lt;/strong&gt;(Sabbathing in a cash rich but time poor society)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Place&lt;/strong&gt; (Jesus OF Nazareth)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Skill &lt;/strong&gt;(The value of work - 7 day faith)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Learning&lt;/strong&gt; (Jesus only answered 3 of the 183 questions put to him)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fun&lt;/strong&gt; (Pain is inevitable - joy has to be worked at - so let's make it a discipline or does that spoil it already?)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;Some may say yes&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt; but how&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;strong&gt;Pray &lt;/strong&gt;(get God's eyes), &lt;strong&gt;People&lt;/strong&gt; (see what God sees), &lt;strong&gt;Places &lt;/strong&gt;(see where God is). My summary but would encourage you to get the CDs to get the full, more eloquent and coherent picture.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S75ItjIJ3OI/AAAAAAAABoc/9pqrDbSvtjE/s1600/IMG_2444.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S75ItjIJ3OI/AAAAAAAABoc/9pqrDbSvtjE/s200/IMG_2444.JPG" width="200" wt="true" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;'Jesus did not come to make us Christian; Jesus came to make us fully human'. (Hans Rookmaaker). &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having said all that please, (if you can fit us in), say one for us as we continue to seek &lt;span id="goog_521745485"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="goog_521745486"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;God's way forward.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-5829589539255340792?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/5829589539255340792/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/04/jesus-in-disneyland.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/5829589539255340792'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/5829589539255340792'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/04/jesus-in-disneyland.html' title='Jesus in Disneyland'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S74Hz2Ms_YI/AAAAAAAABns/SH_lVUG20uc/s72-c/IMG_2499.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-6074251979937734650</id><published>2010-03-28T19:31:00.001+01:00</published><updated>2010-04-26T12:50:28.137+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Mere Christianity</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;God Loves Atheists&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Two blogs in one week. Lucky readers. All will become clear a little later on.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-W6sBwOII/AAAAAAAABhs/PkcwHpWFAm4/s1600/IMG_2028.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="178" nt="true" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-W6sBwOII/AAAAAAAABhs/PkcwHpWFAm4/s200/IMG_2028.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Whilst residing in Peter and Miriam's loo the other evening, (as one does), I started reading in a Christian magazine, about the reaction of a group of&amp;nbsp;atheists in being taken to a service in a large, 'successful' &amp;nbsp;church in London. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;In this group there was&amp;nbsp;a&amp;nbsp;man whose wife is&amp;nbsp;a committed Christian and who fully supports what his wife is doing and often accompanies her to church. Another was a guy whose wife had died of cancer and though he finds it hard to believe in a God of compassion nevertheless enjoys&amp;nbsp;discussing matters of faith and religion. The third person was someone who had been very committed in the church youth group and in local ministry&amp;nbsp;yet within 6 months of being at University, and exposed to a wider world of choice,&amp;nbsp;had declared that he no longer accepted the basic tenets of the faith.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The writer goes onto to make the point that these people are not demons, they are not all in the Dawkins or Hitchens 'rottweiler' mode&amp;nbsp; but are ordinary&amp;nbsp;people with the same fears, hopes, doubts, temptations&amp;nbsp;etc that&amp;nbsp;are part of being human. We need to hear what they say.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-V6Rh9OXI/AAAAAAAABhc/LKxaJ5KwOxg/s1600/IMG_2844.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" nt="true" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-V6Rh9OXI/AAAAAAAABhc/LKxaJ5KwOxg/s200/IMG_2844.JPG" width="168" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;One view expressed - and I am working from memory here - was that the worship and teaching they experienced seemed very 'in house' and 'doctrinaire' rather than being life oriented,&amp;nbsp;less 'certain'&amp;nbsp;and geared towards becoming better people who want to make a difference.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;One person insightfully noted that Jesus didn't spend a lot of time teaching 'doctrine' but sought, with his followers,&amp;nbsp;to teach and model a life of love, acceptance, prayer, forgiveness, healing&amp;nbsp;etc&amp;nbsp;amongst the wider community&amp;nbsp;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-a4wwEAtI/AAAAAAAABh0/t4Ghv-xRJmI/s1600/0909-SDJH-0175.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" nt="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-a4wwEAtI/AAAAAAAABh0/t4Ghv-xRJmI/s200/0909-SDJH-0175.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I don't think we should ignore doctrine and teaching the basics of faith as long as&amp;nbsp;it is in the context of relationship and real life 'out there' discipleship. Being a Christ centred community must make a difference rather than simply be a spiritual consumer choice for certain types of people. The weddings project, (Oh how I miss you already), in its research showed that there is a desire 'out there' for the church to show what it means to be spiritual and Christian in&amp;nbsp;life and relationships. &lt;em&gt;(This desire&amp;nbsp;sometimes gets lost in translation but it is there - honest). &lt;/em&gt;Realise this is so banal and obvious. Maybe I am grasping for a vision that C S Lewis in answer to the question whether he was high or low church said that he was &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;'deep church'&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. That rather off the cuff response has been the peg for a lot of talking and writing and has spawned the 'Deep Church' movement. I think Lewis was simply wanting us to get back to being 'Mere Christians' where the Summary of the Law and the Great Commission are the bottom line and the rest is determined and shaped by these fundamental statements.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-WTd7DPfI/AAAAAAAABhk/uE7mzOsZrjY/s1600/IMG_2057.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="cssfloat: left; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="195" nt="true" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-WTd7DPfI/AAAAAAAABhk/uE7mzOsZrjY/s200/IMG_2057.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-6074251979937734650?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/6074251979937734650/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/03/mere-christianity.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6074251979937734650'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/6074251979937734650'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/03/mere-christianity.html' title='Mere Christianity'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-W6sBwOII/AAAAAAAABhs/PkcwHpWFAm4/s72-c/IMG_2028.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-7142560491194658131</id><published>2010-03-26T18:06:00.001Z</published><updated>2010-04-26T12:51:59.846+01:00</updated><title type='text'>Keeping the Lights on.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6zy8uhiLxI/AAAAAAAABf4/68UIXnWr3Wg/s1600/0909-SDJH-0149-Edit.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" nt="true" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6zy8uhiLxI/AAAAAAAABf4/68UIXnWr3Wg/s200/0909-SDJH-0149-Edit.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Interesting time with Oxford clergy on the project this week.&lt;/strong&gt; As with all the 'gigs' we've done there seems to be a certain amount of cynicism and disdain amongst leaders. For example it is amazing that once you start talking about wedding fees the whole idea of 'mission opportunity' can go out of the window. The language&amp;nbsp;tends towards being&amp;nbsp;about 'them' and ensuring 'they' do not&amp;nbsp;take us for a ride,&amp;nbsp;rather than about seeking to be generous and graceful. After all if 'they' are going to spend thousands of pounds&amp;nbsp;on cars, photographs, video, hotel and honeymoon why shouldn't 'we' get 'them' to pay as much as possible. The wedding becomes more or less a transactional arrangement and not always an open transaction.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I am not saying there are not fees to be paid or that services provided should be carefully explained and options given. What I sensed was a little cynicism about the potential opportunities for welcome, hospitality&amp;nbsp;and belonging. A number of clergy even expressed the view that if weddings were 'promoted' it would only mean more work that they simply did not need or want.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I know I have expressed a certain frustration with 'church as we know it' (??!!)&amp;nbsp;and believe that we are entering 'Post Christendom' big time, but I also think that Weddings and similar life occasions&amp;nbsp;are one of the few&amp;nbsp;'Christendom' opportunities that we have left to us.&amp;nbsp; Research shows that people do want &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;to get married in church if&amp;nbsp;their wedding&amp;nbsp;can be made personal and there is a sense of it really being 'their wedding'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;It is well documented that there is a relationship between tiredness, burn out and the loss of vision and enthusiasm. The lights go out and a keeping the show on the road mentality with accompanying cynicism&amp;nbsp;seeps in and replaces a mission enthusiasm. How we keep leaders' lights on without telling them simply to do more is, I think, the major challenge for the church, if it is to keep its missionary agenda at the forefront. Cynicism will kill mission endeavour and imaginative risk taking if we don't make this a priority. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Some may feel I am talking from personal experience - uh well yes and thrice yes! But also from the conversations and observations over the past weeks in a variety of diocesan contexts around the country.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Are there some quick wins to help us. My starter for ten:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6zyYxMzTaI/AAAAAAAABfw/8z9f8lf550Y/s1600/0210.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="195" nt="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6zyYxMzTaI/AAAAAAAABfw/8z9f8lf550Y/s200/0210.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Make sure&amp;nbsp;leaders get proper time out each week from pastoral and organisational work. &lt;/strong&gt;I would suggest two days a week. In our network, e mail culture this is getting harder as those in positions of leadership will acknowledge. Keep leaders fresh. The arguement that 'because I work all hours and am dog tired and have no quality time for family, hobbies, shopping, keeping other bits of life together and to pray therefore the&amp;nbsp;leader shouldn't have' is&amp;nbsp; daft. She/he is there to lead, to have a prophetic edge, to inspire, to counsel etc etc&amp;nbsp; Keep their tank full and they will be more able to keep yours full as well. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ensure leaders are getting professional development.&lt;/strong&gt; Dioceses provide this but there is a lot out there of high quality. Regular reviews and appraisals can identify strengths to be nurtured and weaknesses to be informed. Again some dioceses are doing this but it is still a bit 'ad hoc' and requires the leader to 'co-operate', and there is nothing like something on a local level as well. But let's make it of high quality, well resourced and fun. (The Weddings Project has been rightly praised for all three).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Make sure leaders have time to explore and develop their passions.&lt;/strong&gt; If they are passionate about leadership, spirituality, preaching, sports evangelism etc then give them time to work on this. Maybe that is what they bring to the table. There is enough of stuff that has to be done but church communities need to be aware of what is it that they do and are&amp;nbsp;(as opposed to their predecessor)&amp;nbsp;that is, maybe, God's gift to the body of Christ&amp;nbsp;at this time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6x92L3nQJI/AAAAAAAABfo/T0VhDWiUvz8/s1600/Photo0722.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="106" nt="true" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6x92L3nQJI/AAAAAAAABfo/T0VhDWiUvz8/s200/Photo0722.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I could twitter on about paid retreats, membership of fitness clubs, proper holidays, mentoring etc etc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The big thing for me when I was working in Bristol with newly ordained curates was to support them relationally rather than simply seek to educate&amp;nbsp;them. Though we did a lot of development work it supplemented the group times we shared. A key aspect of what is called 'ministerial formation' must be that of keeping the 'warm glow' of&amp;nbsp;calling alive and at the heart of fruitful ministry. This is what I am talking about. Other organisations pay bonuses and offer various perks. We can't do this but we can give time and relationship. It must be worth it for the sake of mission.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;'I call you friends'. Phew....Thank you Lord.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Keeping the lights on - let's have&amp;nbsp;your responses and ideas.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-7142560491194658131?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/7142560491194658131/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/03/keeping-lights-on.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/7142560491194658131'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/7142560491194658131'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/03/keeping-lights-on.html' title='Keeping the Lights on.'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6zy8uhiLxI/AAAAAAAABf4/68UIXnWr3Wg/s72-c/0909-SDJH-0149-Edit.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-1187881429403555219</id><published>2010-03-21T19:26:00.000Z</published><updated>2010-03-21T19:26:59.484Z</updated><title type='text'>Let God do it.....</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6ZqN8VyFsI/AAAAAAAABeg/MYRstk_IxZs/s1600-h/IMG_0266.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="133" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6ZqN8VyFsI/AAAAAAAABeg/MYRstk_IxZs/s200/IMG_0266.jpg" vt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;A mega thank you to all those who have let me have their thoughts in response to these rambles. Whether we agree or not is irrelevant - to engage with you in the conversation is a real joy. The blogs that have got a lot of us going have been the one on trust and the last one on marriage and relationships. I was personally encouraged by those who didn't judge me when I wrote and said that I was finding trusting God a challenge at the moment. I realise in some people's eyes Vicars should probably keep this sort of thing to themselves and live lives of perfected faith and purity,&amp;nbsp;but it has certainly been helpful to me to have promises and words of prayer and support. To me this is the Body of Christ at work.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;The blog on marriage and relationships brought forth a variety of views -&amp;nbsp;but what I found encouraging was that there are a growing number of people from a more&amp;nbsp;'evangelical' perspective, who are acknowledging the context in which we now live, and feel that it is more important that all people are given the opportunity to respond to God's love in Christ. What happens in their lives after that, is something that God does in and through them, and nothing about human pressure, judgement or church expectation. If it doesn't equate to what some people think should be 'right' in our limited and culturally shaped worlds, then maybe we will have to live with that and continually seek God's grace and mercy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6ZqqhyPwyI/AAAAAAAABeo/Qxl5vJPbr38/s1600-h/IMG_1520.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="156" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6ZqqhyPwyI/AAAAAAAABeo/Qxl5vJPbr38/s200/IMG_1520.jpg" vt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;I am an admirer of Bishop James Jones of Liverpool who, coming from a fairly conservative evangelical stance on human sexuality, has embarked on a journey of reflection and change. He likens this to what is meant by being a member of the Anglican community in this day and age. We live amongst diversity, and maybe our church communities need to affirm the value of diversity more - not just in style&amp;nbsp;and practice, but more fundamentally in issues relating to morality and sexuality. I would encourage you to go onto the Liverpool Dicoesan site and read his presidential address for March 2010.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;As Bishop called to “maintain the spirit of unity in the bond of peace” in the Diocese of Liverpool where we have the full spectrum of moral opinion on human sexuality I believe that to have “diversity without enmity”, as the Dean put it at the Bishop’s Council, provides a safe and a spiritually and emotionally healthy place for Christians of differing convictions to discern the will of God for our lives. To know and to do God’s will is our calling. The place for that discernment is the Body of Christ where the different members, differentiated by the diversity of our graces, gifts and experiences, are called to be in harmony and love with one another.&amp;nbsp; It is also offered in the hope that we will let nothing deflect us from mission, the sending out of us all to embrace the world in the love of God.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6Zts_en3HI/AAAAAAAABfM/J6JUjvRaY7c/s1600-h/Jon%26Sarahs+Wedding+349.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6Zts_en3HI/AAAAAAAABfM/J6JUjvRaY7c/s200/Jon%26Sarahs+Wedding+349.jpg" vt="true" width="133" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;It is key to God's mission that church communities are safe places for all people and their relationships. That is why I welcome a Bishop who has realised that without Gospel inclusivity there is no mission. Yancey's story of the&amp;nbsp;3.00am party for&amp;nbsp;Hawaian prostitute ends with the punch line: 'What sort of church throws a party for a prostitute at 3.00am in the morning?'&amp;nbsp;Acceptance and grace... period. The rest is up to God... thank goodness. He's had a lot of practice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana;"&gt;Oxford - well Cuddesdon actually- for the Weddings project at the crack of dawn.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-1187881429403555219?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/1187881429403555219/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/03/let-god-do-it.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/1187881429403555219'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/1187881429403555219'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/03/let-god-do-it.html' title='Let God do it.....'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6ZqN8VyFsI/AAAAAAAABeg/MYRstk_IxZs/s72-c/IMG_0266.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-2760044885405058766</id><published>2010-03-18T17:12:00.000Z</published><updated>2010-03-18T17:12:00.122Z</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6JcdQMnwCI/AAAAAAAABWA/GhGfuP0qxE4/s1600-h/IMG_2030.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="111" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6JcdQMnwCI/AAAAAAAABWA/GhGfuP0qxE4/s200/IMG_2030.JPG" vt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif;"&gt;OK folks a slightly more controversial blog this week. Need your help in this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif;"&gt;Weddings project in Bolton went well. Two things occured to me that I think are worth exploring.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia, &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;, serif;"&gt;A number of clergy over the past few weeks have made the obvious observation that most couples from outside the church come for marriage, having already been in a committed relationship for some time- a number have children. It gives a fresh slant to marriage preparation. (by the way what a lousy title and how presumptious!). One guy at Bolton was still in 'cold turkey' about this, and felt the need the to use the language of the 'dangers' of co-habiting etc&amp;nbsp; I suspect he is not alone on this. On the project we simply present the research - or in other words the blindingly obvious - that many couples see marriage as the more like the finishing rather than the starting line. The crown of the relationship. For some if there was the option for baptising their children at the same time&amp;nbsp;then that would make it even better. I would value thoughts about all this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;The other&amp;nbsp;thing that struck me happened outside Manchester station making a phone call. Two female couples walked by me - obviously couples and chatting with others. All seemed very normal.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6JcLl7BWoI/AAAAAAAABV4/qoeGINcGepY/s1600-h/IMG_2040.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="153" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6JcLl7BWoI/AAAAAAAABV4/qoeGINcGepY/s200/IMG_2040.JPG" vt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia;"&gt;Both these highlight for me where society and culture is. For me the issue is not about judgement, corrective programmes - but how on earth for God's sake do we live and share the Goood News of Jesus with and among all people. How do we do church now rather than in 1960? Discuss!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-2760044885405058766?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/2760044885405058766/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/03/ok-folks-slightly-more-controversial.html#comment-form' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/2760044885405058766'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/2760044885405058766'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/03/ok-folks-slightly-more-controversial.html' title=''/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6JcdQMnwCI/AAAAAAAABWA/GhGfuP0qxE4/s72-c/IMG_2030.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-5107162245964698289</id><published>2010-03-13T17:33:00.000Z</published><updated>2010-03-13T17:33:28.503Z</updated><title type='text'>www.yourchurchwedding.org  Give it a hit and see what you think!</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5vHjj5fY2I/AAAAAAAABUw/bBo-iTLOlv4/s1600-h/IMG_2823.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="98" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5vHjj5fY2I/AAAAAAAABUw/bBo-iTLOlv4/s200/IMG_2823.JPG" vt="true" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A great time with the Weddings Project this week.&lt;/strong&gt; How solid some of these Yorkshire towns and cities are - large public and commercial buildings, squares, public art together with a landscape that speaks of solidity and permanence. Yet it is obvious that it is also a story of cultural diversity&amp;nbsp;in a changing, consumer shaped&amp;nbsp;world.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5vHKK4qyXI/AAAAAAAABUo/SQ_IfNUHZnU/s1600-h/0909-SDJH-0113.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; cssfloat: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5vHKK4qyXI/AAAAAAAABUo/SQ_IfNUHZnU/s200/0909-SDJH-0113.jpg" vt="true" width="176" /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;One of the key issues that&lt;/strong&gt; keeps emerging through all our sessions is that of the role of the ordained leader in this changing cultural landscape. The Weddings project, on the basis of quality research, makes the point that the 'Vicar' makes the difference. A warm and relational Vicar to be honest.&amp;nbsp;A Vicar who doesn;t just stand at the altar, in the pulpit or even at the door but&amp;nbsp; spends quality time outside the confines of church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Jean, a staunch Mother's Union member in a Midlands Diocese, fully on board with what we were saying, made the point: &lt;em&gt;'the church people in our villages would never put up with Vicars who spent more of their time with those outside the church - we pay for&amp;nbsp;the vicar to look after us.....'&amp;nbsp; &lt;/em&gt;But surely the Pastor/ Priest&amp;nbsp;is there to look after 'us'? Sounds quite reasonable in 'parish share andconsumer churchland'&amp;nbsp;- except when you factor in Jesus.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The answer is yes and no. I use the example of Jesus and the disciples. They were 'looked after' but always within the context of becoming a sign of the Kingdom of God through being fairly hands on in terms of 'doing' the kingdom. Their&amp;nbsp;life as Christ Followers&amp;nbsp;was shaped by concepts like risk, trust, relationship, community, healing, justice, love, 'go', 'hands on'&amp;nbsp;and so on. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5vHrUqMN2I/AAAAAAAABU4/JOatyHev1ws/s1600-h/IMG_2822.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5vHrUqMN2I/AAAAAAAABU4/JOatyHev1ws/s200/IMG_2822.JPG" vt="true" width="115" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;The idea that Christian leaders should be there for 'us' - like our own personal chaplains - is really a product of a settled view of the church rather than that of a journeying people seeking to be active signs of the Kingdom of God&amp;nbsp;in the world of today.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;It's not that congregations don't want their Vicars to be 'out there', it's when they&amp;nbsp;start taking it too seriously that the problems can occur. The&amp;nbsp;ordained should be beyond the door as long as they are always at the altar/pulpit and everywhere in between. To be honest a lot of books I asked potential ordinands to read about ordained ministry&amp;nbsp;seemed to be re-inforcing this idea. To me it seems to be taking the concept of elasticity to breaking point. And to be honest leaders will make a choice - either by default, compromise, ill-health, the pressure of unrealistic expectations or a combination of all these. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;One minister&amp;nbsp;told me that&amp;nbsp;she struggles to&amp;nbsp;be 'out there' as&amp;nbsp;much as she would like or needs to be. The percieved needs and expectations of the congregation&amp;nbsp;mean that&amp;nbsp;her&amp;nbsp;time is&amp;nbsp;spent with services for those who like that sort of thing, meetings, sick visits, endless building&amp;nbsp;issues.&amp;nbsp;This means that time to engage personally with the wider community and then to work out how the church community can share in that engagement simply doesn't happen or comes a poor second. Worst of all this tension can often lead to disillusionment and even despair.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Another priest responsible for&amp;nbsp;a large northern Abbey church, (in&amp;nbsp;a tradional Anglican style),&amp;nbsp;made the point that he felt his leadership was becoming defined by the word 'prophetic'.&amp;nbsp;We both&amp;nbsp;took that to mean 'bloody hard', always challenging people and often criticised for not being 'available'.&amp;nbsp; I know how he feels! He has done a great job in that place but it is obviously still very hard. He said that much of his time is now consciously spent in the wider community despite what the 'church members' think.&amp;nbsp;I really pray for leaders like this, (often with young families),&amp;nbsp;who are not going to give in easily&amp;nbsp;but will continue striving to reshape introverted church communities. I call such people Missional leaders and we simply don't have enough of them. Even Pioneer Ministry seems to have been hi-jacked and shaped&amp;nbsp;by too many&amp;nbsp;with in&amp;nbsp;house agendas. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5vHzxK4ZwI/AAAAAAAABVA/JP1ai6lMD6U/s1600-h/IMG_2844.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5vHzxK4ZwI/AAAAAAAABVA/JP1ai6lMD6U/s200/IMG_2844.JPG" vt="true" width="168" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;However much I struggle with the thought, it is true that leaders must set the pace and the context for the mission of the church. This is a prophetic and pioneer ministry and can be both demanding and mis-understood especially from within the faithful at all levels.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Some of you reading who&amp;nbsp;are involved in church leadership may wish to comment and share your own stories. Church members reading this may have their own perspectives to share. It is a conversation that the whole Church needs to have - for God's sake!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-5107162245964698289?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/5107162245964698289/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/03/wwwyourchurchweddingorg-give-it-hit-and.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/5107162245964698289'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/5107162245964698289'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/03/wwwyourchurchweddingorg-give-it-hit-and.html' title='www.yourchurchwedding.org  Give it a hit and see what you think!'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5vHjj5fY2I/AAAAAAAABUw/bBo-iTLOlv4/s72-c/IMG_2823.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-1821877924385644229</id><published>2010-03-06T19:42:00.000Z</published><updated>2010-03-06T19:42:54.605Z</updated><title type='text'>We need help to stop us from sinking</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5Kodlr8k5I/AAAAAAAABL0/rQlkK8uVHHM/s1600-h/Photo0147.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" kt="true" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5Kodlr8k5I/AAAAAAAABL0/rQlkK8uVHHM/s320/Photo0147.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;Thinking about trust at the moment. For various reasons I am really struggling with the whole trusting God thing. I remember some years ago preaching on the story of Abraham and Issac and the journey they made as father and son so that Abraham could sacrifice that which was most precious to him. Somehow I found myself saying that as a parent I simply could not do what Abraham was asked to do. The whole scenario of building an alatar, collecting the wood, getting the knife ready went through my mind and to be honest I knew my trust in God would not stretch that far. I even wondered what sort of God would want to put anyone to that sort of test. Yes I realise the key text is probably 'God will provide a scarifice' and that this episode prefigures the Cross but that may also raise questions in our present culture&amp;nbsp;as Steve Chalke has discovered. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I am feeling a bit that God seems to be playing games with us at the moment - I can't go into details - but please pray for Sheryl and myself as we look to the future. Hope is a bit dim&amp;nbsp;so maybe we could share a bit of yours&amp;nbsp;O reader. As Rembrandt's sketch of Peter getting out of the boat shows vividly -&amp;nbsp;we all need help when the water gets a bit choppy and feels as if it's going over our heads.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;To Wetherby for wedding project. Gosh these Yorkshire clergy are a canny bunch. When I arrived, soon&amp;nbsp;after things had got started, I could feel the tension in the room. Who are these 'experts' from London and what do they think they can teach us? To be honest it was quite refreshing to work with this. We learnt a lot and they all seemed to as well. By the end of the second day the atmosphere was great and we were really humming. On the idea of sending anniversary cards to wedding couples someone was heard to say: 'It makes a change from just remembering the dead each year.' Amen - let's have a system that remembers and prays for those who have been married amongst us.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5KqZTkpXbI/AAAAAAAABL8/mFfdUarCrqI/s1600-h/0054.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" kt="true" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5KqZTkpXbI/AAAAAAAABL8/mFfdUarCrqI/s320/0054.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;One other issue emerged was whether there is a need to do a 'Christenings project'. I discovered that there is a blossoming market in secular naming ceremonies. Done at home, totally personalised and customised - yours £180! Anyone know about this?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;I realise Christenings/Baptisms can be controversial but maybe we need to tap into this market and have a naming ceremony which uses as much symbolism as possible - even water! And we'll do it for free.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;The Baptism service is fairly spirutally advanced in its language and the life implications and is not where most people are. Let's understand that we cannot 'christianise' people but we can in someway tap into significant experiences their life journey's. Let's resurrect that old folk concept of 'naming a child' and blessing a family.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5Ks1h0MkFI/AAAAAAAABME/xMVt1bHZLfI/s1600-h/May+20030044.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" kt="true" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5Ks1h0MkFI/AAAAAAAABME/xMVt1bHZLfI/s320/May+20030044.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;I am struggling with trusting God at the&amp;nbsp;moment at what I believe to be a significant point in my life. Help me to go with the flow as it were.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"&gt;Off to Mirfield on Monday for next stage of weddings project. Girding up my loins to engage with another wonderful group of Yorkshire clergy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-1821877924385644229?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/1821877924385644229/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/03/we-need-help-to-stop-us-from-sinking.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/1821877924385644229'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/1821877924385644229'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/03/we-need-help-to-stop-us-from-sinking.html' title='We need help to stop us from sinking'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S5Kodlr8k5I/AAAAAAAABL0/rQlkK8uVHHM/s72-c/Photo0147.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-3137683252492481389</id><published>2010-02-15T09:48:00.000Z</published><updated>2010-02-15T09:54:24.166Z</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S3j68kC4qjI/AAAAAAAAAcc/ONxD-yIhJxE/s1600-h/IMG_1175.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" ct="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S3j68kC4qjI/AAAAAAAAAcc/ONxD-yIhJxE/s320/IMG_1175.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. (Einstein)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;TV highlight of the week&amp;nbsp;apart from Nurse Jackie was a religious/moral 'question time' which airs on a Sunday morning. Yes I realise most of you reading this are either in church or listening to the Archers omnibus but just think what you might be missing!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;To be honest it can be quite depressing. For example this week the programme asked the question 'Why should the Anglican church stay together?' Ummmmm - it soon degenerated into a full scale battle between evangelical fundamentalists&amp;nbsp;and what seemed to be the&amp;nbsp;rest of the world on the issue of same sex realtionships. Even women Bishops had to fight to get a hearing with this group of people. The&amp;nbsp; actual and vital question about unity&amp;nbsp;within disagreement - which the world&amp;nbsp;desparately needs to see modelled somewhere - was quickly dispsensed with as Reform types summarily consigned vast swathes of the population to hell whilst others, including a gay priest and even Anne Atkins, (not renowned for her liberal tendencies),&amp;nbsp;sought to bring moderation and even Jesus somewhere into the melee. Ah well..... see how these..... etc etc&amp;nbsp; You'd think on National TV some people might even think first about how others might view them - and how they might view themselves when they get home!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Where am I going with this? Met up with a dear and respected friend during the week. This guy who is a pastor from the Baptist tradition is firmly eveangelical, a committed charismatic, a bit of a Biblical theologian and a great expository preacher. But he reminds me every time we meet that whatever 'label', tradition or ecclesiology we might be committed to -&amp;nbsp;it all has to be within&amp;nbsp;the wide and open spaces of&amp;nbsp;the Love&amp;nbsp;and Kingdom of God come in Jesus.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;He described a gay couple he had got to know and how for him it wasn't about judging them and seeking to change their lifestyle but asking 'what sort of church would we need to be to enable the love of God in Jesus to connect with people where they are&amp;nbsp;- whatever their &amp;nbsp;lifestyle, sexual orientation, addictive patterns, materialistic and secular worldview'. I like to be with people who really believe and are passionate about the truth&amp;nbsp;that it is God who forgives, transforms lives, heals, judges&amp;nbsp;and restores&amp;nbsp;- if any person is open to that happening.&amp;nbsp; Churches that leave God to work with whoever he chooses (even me) and in whatever way he chooses&amp;nbsp;are communities that understand and live in Amazing Grace.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S3j54YYX6aI/AAAAAAAAAcM/Tl8OR1pi93s/s1600-h/IMG_0783.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" ct="true" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S3j54YYX6aI/AAAAAAAAAcM/Tl8OR1pi93s/s320/IMG_0783.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Churches - wide, open green spaces that allow people to discover and be surprised by God and embraced by Jesus rather than tarmac covered yards, bounded by high walls and supervised by well meaning but hard faced people blowing whistles and telling people, (in love of course)&amp;nbsp;to stop and form an orderly queue all the time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Maranatha - Come Lord Jesus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-3137683252492481389?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/3137683252492481389/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/02/insanity-doing-same-thing-over-and-over.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/3137683252492481389'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/3137683252492481389'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/02/insanity-doing-same-thing-over-and-over.html' title=''/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S3j68kC4qjI/AAAAAAAAAcc/ONxD-yIhJxE/s72-c/IMG_1175.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-5483883848372276722</id><published>2010-02-10T18:36:00.000Z</published><updated>2010-02-10T18:36:06.457Z</updated><title type='text'>The Show MUST go on.... but why?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;What an interesting time since I last blogged. The Wedding Project in Worcester, a great evening's conversation with friends from Worle, a day&amp;nbsp;by the railway tracks around Bristol&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;with Chris Perkins taking train photos (anoraks on), finding time trying to explore future roles and some interesting moments with the University.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;The General Synod is meeting as I write. A number of key issues being discussed&amp;nbsp;that to be honest are not really resolvable unless you buy into the myth of the Anglican church as being more than a convenient confederation of different minded people seeking to be Good News to those around them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;One thing that did emerge was a continuing commitment to being a mixed economy church. Fairly obvious really because that is where we are. Will solid church be replaced by 'liquid' church? Over time I think the whole shape and structure of being and doing church will change. Transition is happening as people interact in different ways and resources become re-located. Messy Church (in a messy world) describes&amp;nbsp;it all at the moment!&amp;nbsp;We just have to live with it, discover what the Spirit is saying&amp;nbsp;and move on. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Listening to clergy who have been ordained a while, (like wot I have), there is in some a sense of fear, disdain and cynicism. Not just about 'fresh expressions' but&amp;nbsp;often about life in general and of course senior leaders. Add to this the possibility of having to work an extra three years to get a pension, the ever growing&amp;nbsp;pressure to get an increasing parish share&amp;nbsp;collected and to keep the numbers up&amp;nbsp;and I think leadership in the C of E is not in a good place at all. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;While I was DDO in Bristol the concept of Pioneer Ministers was developed. It was apparent that many involved in selection and training saw this as more of a bolt on rather than shaping a new and more 'apostolic' form of ordained leadership. What Mike Hill describes as 'person with white van '. Keeping the show on the road seems to be the name of the game - or have I lost the plot?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Just&amp;nbsp;a few&amp;nbsp;ideas: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Cut the number of buildings we 'run' by 50% (I know this will take forever in practice but let's set the context). Buildings too easily become the focal point for all we do. They will still be needed but need to become more like resource and community centres.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Let Pioneer Ministry be franchised out to CMS/Church Army&amp;nbsp;or similar organisations. They have wisdom and vast experience in doing mission in diverse cultural contexts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Let Pioneer Ministry training&amp;nbsp;be the default shape of ordination training.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;You may have more.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Come on C of E - big decisions and mega -choices will have to be made.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Behold I make all things new - do you not perceive it?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-5483883848372276722?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/5483883848372276722/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/02/show-must-go-on-but-why.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/5483883848372276722'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/5483883848372276722'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/02/show-must-go-on-but-why.html' title='The Show MUST go on.... but why?'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-8638585856446127440</id><published>2010-02-02T07:41:00.000Z</published><updated>2010-02-02T07:41:12.510Z</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Highlights of last week included a couple of hours with Phil Simpson, chairing a busy meeting of the University Council and a wonderful, if not bracing walk with Sheryl along the whole of Brighton seafront – with a shopping diversion into The Laines – of course! Returning to find Jon and Sarah at home was the end of a perfect Sunday.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;When I was Vicar of CC Woking Phil and Rachel Simpson and their family moved from Pakistan as Phil was to be based at CMS in its Waterloo Road incarnation. Phil was sharing his thoughts about how our 'network' culture is changing our understanding of the role of leaders. To quote from a review of a book Phil recommends: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;'With accelerating velocity, our age's new technologies of social networking are evolving, and evolving us, into new groups doing new things in new ways, and old and new groups alike doing the old things better and more. You don't have to have a Facebook page to know that the times they are a changin'. Hierarchical structures that exist to manage the work of groups are seeing their raisons d'être swiftly eroded by the rising technological tide. Business models are being destroyed, transformed, born at dizzying speeds, and the larger social impact is profound.' (Here comes Everybody Clay Shirky). &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Needless to say I am looking forward to reading this highly acclaimed tome.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;This led me to reflect (again) on Pete Ward’s ‘Liquid Church’ concept which as I have said before, despite its many critics is seeking to say something both profound and prophetic which is that the communities of the 21st century aren’t formed around front porches, or churches, or any physical structure or social institution. I would modify that a bit and say at the moment ‘not just around’ porches, churches and buildings. What I think Pete is saying and it is thoroughly theological in that it is based upon the model of the Christian Trinity – God is community interacting if not ‘dancing’ (my image is of a line dance rather than individual performance!) and interacting with each of his ‘persons’. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;‘The static monolith of the congregation is replaced by a dynamic, inclusive, and fluid dance of intimate communication. In this sense liquid church does not just reflect the life of God. It joins in with that life and it is indwelt by that life: liquid God and liquid church.’&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;I am no theologian so some will beat me hands down on this one but I do think the image of church as a network of interacting relationships is more ‘Christian’, more Kingdom if you like, than the building oriented and hierarchical structures we have at the moment. A term like ‘The Body of Christ’ is obviously more movement and relational than THE CHURCH. I think this also applies to other organisations as well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Last time I shared a little list of the qualities needed in leaders (in taking weddings) – maybe that little list is the basic requirement for leaders in this less solid culture full stop. Training as well as being about theology and liturgy need to focus more on developing people, community and team skills.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Questions still remain however which you might like to consider: What is the role of the Christian leader is a more fluid context? Where do church buildings fit in and are those denominations that see them as vital to mission right in spending vast sums they don’t have in maintaining them? Where does the larger gathering fit in? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Unlike many other scholars and preachers Pete sees consumerism (commodification) as the hallmark of this ‘liquid’ culture and encourages church to see this as a friend rather than a foe. Like advertisers who are there to stimulate our desires the church’s (community) role is to stimulate people’s desire for God. What do you think? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;More fluid expressions of church are essential in that they take &lt;em&gt;"the present culture seriously and seek to express the fullness of the Christian gospel within that culture.'&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;To be honest I find this approach more ‘honest’ – after all we are all consumers to a greater or lesser degree and church leaders are more than adept at using consumerism for church purposes on the one hand whilst preaching against it on another! (Discuss)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;As some churches continue to embed themselves in a corporate and hierarchical model of leadership and management, business corporations have been known to look to religion for insights into spirituality, relationships, trust, intuition, mystery, community, commitment, cooperation and even love! Maybe in this emerging ‘liquid’ world we need to stick to and build on the values we know and yearn for. Sounds like Jesus in my book........&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-8638585856446127440?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/8638585856446127440/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/02/highlights-of-last-week-included-couple.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/8638585856446127440'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/8638585856446127440'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/02/highlights-of-last-week-included-couple.html' title=''/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-2512127650125366421</id><published>2010-01-24T19:08:00.000Z</published><updated>2010-01-24T19:08:08.569Z</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;EAST IS EAST&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Apologies - you will have recieved a couple of blogs by mistake - trying to work on drafts in blogger.com is a nightmare - if anyone can let me know how to save and edit drafts I would be really grateful. I don;t think the Pope has this problem......&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Off to Norwich last week to spend time with the Wedding Project Team. An intiative of the Archbishop's Council - (don't ask what that is and does- even those who are on it don't seem to know!). &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Apart from having to suffer travelling with a train company that looks and feels like one that has past its sell by date, and two nights in the wrong Travelodge - the one furthest away from the Cathedral and Session venue, a lousy meal in what must be the worst Cafe R..... on the planet and with the added value of a Bus Station next door - it was a seriously good time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;What made it seriously good? Briefly having a great product to promote. Well put together and presented by a highly motivated and 'professional' Team and some brilliant research by the Henley Centre ( a renowned non- church commercial organisation) about how people out there think about the church and its ministry when it comes to weddings and of course what flows from that.... which is quite a lot. I have a little list..... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;What the Weddings project has discovered is that there are plenty of people out there who want to avail themsleves of the services of 'the church' when it comes to key life events. To use the language of Grace Davie there is no longer a sense of 'obligation' to the church (we are now in 'Post Christendom'), as we have now moved into a time shaped by consumerism and personal choice.What was either inherited or for whatever reason imposed now becomes a matter of personal choice as and when needed. This is why the stuff we do 'out there' (while we still can) is probably more important now than ever before. What we have around us I think is a spirituality which responds to acceptance, affirmation, listening, value and relationship. Rather than the Church telling people what they 'need', we are being called to live out in relationships what it means to be Christ Followers in what Pete Ward in his great little book Liquid Church describes as a 'liquid culture'. One that 'relies on networks, communication processes based on hubs (affinity-based gathering beyond a Sunday morning service) and connecting nodes (methods of communication/participation in the network).' &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;'The 'liquid' believer will see what God is doing in the waters of culture and seek to engage it.'&lt;/strong&gt; In my book this is what Jesus did. Weddings, Blessings, Funerals, Thanksgivings, Baptisms (Christenings), Christingle, Valentines celebrations, Harvest, Remembrance, All Souls, Chaplaincies etc etc become vital 'life' connections with people where they are.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Does this mean - 'if we do it - they will come?' To be honest I think Pete Ward is right that simply adapting 'solid church' to appear liquid - is a busted flush. (my words not his). We can no longer utilize regular, weekly gatherings as our primary method of communication and community formation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A LITTLE LIST&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;The people who were interviewed for the Wedding project showed the need for:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Vicars (as in church leader) who are human and accepting&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Vicars who like and understand people (and their life situations)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Vicars who will put 'them' first&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Vicars who can administrate and communicate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Vicars who don't impose their often very solid agendas&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Vicars who will even take time to keep in touch after the event (card, text, e mail etc etc)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Trebuchet MS&amp;quot;, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Some maybe saying what about the rest of the church. The 'elephant in the room' I think. Many clergy love working with people 'out there' (for various reasons) but unless we are developing a relational spirituality amongst our congregations that is focussed on a church for the 'non - member' in 'Liquid culture' then we are sunk. The list above needs to be extended to the church community but in reality that is, in my experience, a really tough call. It requires deeper and more radical strategic thinking on a regional and national scale than we seem to have at the moment though with the Wedding Project we can at least thank God for the Archbishop's Council!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-2512127650125366421?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/2512127650125366421/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/01/east-is-east-apologies-you-will-have.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/2512127650125366421'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/2512127650125366421'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/01/east-is-east-apologies-you-will-have.html' title=''/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-7927283209948903699</id><published>2010-01-17T15:17:00.001Z</published><updated>2010-01-17T16:46:03.298Z</updated><title type='text'>Sab Notes 3 Eastward and onwards.....</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;"&gt;This week will see me venturing north eastwards - to Norwich. For why - I hear the nation cry? Well those who are interested anyway - which limits it a bit!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;With other members of the Mission and Public Affairs Division (Archbishops' Council) to help launch the 'Wedding Project' with local clergy in that Diocese. I was asked to play the role of 'critical friend' last week as the presentation and other material was worked through in draft form. Very impressive it is too -&amp;nbsp;not just in terms of content but the fact that a lot of research by a quality business organisation and mini - trials with clergy, married couples, people thinking of marriage etc lies behind the finished product. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Bottom line - surprise, surprise - Vicars, (generic&amp;nbsp;term for dog collared people), who &lt;strong&gt;like people&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp; and can share bucketfuls of grace, human warmth, acceptance and informed passion without the judgement of religion. Sounds like Jesus in my book....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;It also sounds like many clergy I know and love who would rather spend their time 'out there' with people being and sharing Good News but find they are spending most of their quality ministerial time keeping 'church shows' on the road and addressing ineffective and culturally outdated agendas.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none; clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S1M0VzO8HMI/AAAAAAAAANE/hP581UDH0CI/s1600-h/IMG_0789.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" ps="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S1M0VzO8HMI/AAAAAAAAANE/hP581UDH0CI/s320/IMG_0789.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Do I sound cynical - well maybe that is why the Wedding Project is so good for me at the moment&amp;nbsp;- a return to what I believe I was called to do as an ordained Christ Follower. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Feel free to discuss.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;Maybe a quote from one of the authors who has really shaped me in the past and still does....&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;'It is vital that our concepts of holiness undergo radical transformation.&amp;nbsp;Holiness has often been equated with separation and moralism. Jesus could be accused of neither. He mixed widely with those who were regarded as 'sinners', to the detriment of his own reputation. And his emphasis was not on clean living, but on the redemptive acceptance and forgiveness of God. Our primary call is to the process of change itself; the will to be transformed for the sake of God's call to life. It remains to be seen whether the church in the West is willing to pay the price of following Christ into a new era.' (Mike Riddell)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-7927283209948903699?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/7927283209948903699/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/01/sab-notes-3-eastward-and-onwards.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/7927283209948903699'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/7927283209948903699'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/01/sab-notes-3-eastward-and-onwards.html' title='Sab Notes 3 Eastward and onwards.....'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S1M0VzO8HMI/AAAAAAAAANE/hP581UDH0CI/s72-c/IMG_0789.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-7404294861556343674</id><published>2010-01-14T15:51:00.000Z</published><updated>2010-01-15T20:42:56.962Z</updated><title type='text'>Sab Notes 2.</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S1DR5fncONI/AAAAAAAAAM8/FwO5fPHLGnA/s1600-h/IMG_1265.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="MARGIN: 0px 0px 10px 10px; WIDTH: 320px; FLOAT: right; HEIGHT: 214px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5427068336651122898" border="0" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S1DR5fncONI/AAAAAAAAAM8/FwO5fPHLGnA/s320/IMG_1265.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;2. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;First real week of 'sab'. No Sunday Church. Black mark ... it was snowing, we were tired and The Archers was on. Did I miss it (church that is) - the quick answer is no. The real answer is YES - but why? - what did I miss? I am tempted to make a list but I think it would become more about what I 'should' miss (certainly as a paid cleric) rather than as a Christ Follower albeit with a leadership ministry in 2010. Maybe this could be an opportunity for others (including the ordained) to tell me what...... &lt;strong&gt;Please do.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;This week has been less about snow and more about Haiti. It took me to my colleague Bob Eckhard's web site: &lt;em&gt;tough questions.org&lt;/em&gt; and the issue that a course in tough questions might be a better and more spiritually integral way of introducing the Christian Faith to people. If we begin with what people &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;should &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;believe we give them no real ability to relate to the world (including their world) as it really is. &lt;em&gt;(Some reading this may remember the old Y course we did in Woking)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:verdana;"&gt;I began this week with the Mission Team at Church House. What a great time it was. To see a group of people who do have a mission and passion to see the Gospel be just that in people's lives where they are, is a real tonic. Weddings, (however that is seen now and will be interpreted in the future), is about people in love and relationship and that is surely the most vital point in life as God &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;is &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;love. To spread that message around more effectively and humanely must surely be right. &lt;em&gt;(Simple soul that I am)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;'Haiti cries... and we cry with them.' &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;Books I have known and loved: This week I found myself reading 'The Gagging of God' (Gavin Reid 1969 !). One of the first books I read as a Christian - borrowed from Christ Church Cheltenham Library and still with the stamp - gasp, shock, horror - stolen goods. O wretched man that I am.... Apart from the obvious cultural context (male, pre - Computer, internet and digital, nostaglic Christendom, etc etc) it still retains its prophetic edge - for me at least.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;My Dad was a 'born again atheist' and for him the church, in terms of its cultural expresssion was bad news - I think he had been badly hurt by the internal politics of a local church. However he did keep saying that he had time for Jesus but not for the church. Reid's book tapped into that for me then and still does now - 'the medium is the message', the heart of communication. For many years this became more about the means and methods of being 'contemporary'. I still think a cultural heritage shaped in past generations (including hierarchical structures, 'theology in procession', clapped out buildings, robes, bureacracy etc) of the CofE are a mega hindrance and the attachement to them by many clergy and members is a terminal death sentence. But if we are called to be a church for the nation then that means more about becoming a movement rather than an institution or 'successful church'. Steve Croft and Brain McClaren both address this in their writings. My vision is still to see church communities that could have given my Dad a real choice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;l&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt; am reminded of Howard Snyder's comment that church people worry that the world might seek to change the church, Kingdom people work to see the church change the world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;The jury is out as far as I am concerned. The hardest thing is still to get people out of their precious buildings and out into thier wider communities, culures and networks making connections that are open to leading.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-7404294861556343674?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/7404294861556343674/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/01/sab-notes-2.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/7404294861556343674'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/7404294861556343674'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/01/sab-notes-2.html' title='Sab Notes 2.'/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S1DR5fncONI/AAAAAAAAAM8/FwO5fPHLGnA/s72-c/IMG_1265.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7773722086251863606.post-1044704029051652679</id><published>2010-01-14T08:31:00.000Z</published><updated>2010-01-14T14:13:34.836Z</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;&lt;font face="verdana"&gt;Malcolm’s Sab Notes&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;font face="verdana"&gt;1. The journey so far…..&lt;br /&gt;January 7, 2010&lt;br /&gt; Last Monday I started a 3 month sabbatical. It is 1994 since my last one and a lot of water has flowed under the bridge since then. We left Woking, after 16 years as Vicar of a busy town centre church, and moved to Wiltshire as I had been appointed Director of Ordinand’s and Curate Training for the Diocese of Bristol. A fascinating, creative and privileged role yet also at times the obvious frustrations for people like me. (answers on a postcard…)&lt;br /&gt;Related to all this was a  personal coming to terms with a deep sense of loss having left our ‘community’ and family in Woking and the subsequent change in leadership role.  In all this I became more aware of how far short of ‘wholeness’ I really am, and of the amazing, unlimited yet not ‘cheap’ grace of God and the love he’s given me in family and friendship.&lt;br /&gt;In future blogs I will seek to share with you my journey over these coming weeks. Time being spent with people whose life and call is to encourage the C of E – the whole ‘laos’ as it were – to focus on our core calling as church to be engaged in contextually sensitive mission. I will also share some of the reasons I believe that my experiences as Vicar of three churches in West London, in probably one of the most culturally diverse areas in the UK, has led me to consider that there may-be systemic reasons why the Church of England is inhibited in this regard. (He said humbly.....)&lt;br /&gt;The big issue, as we all know, is how we as church are engaging and being Good News with people whatever lifestyle choices they make, sexual orientation they are or cultural context they inhabit. This, I think is more about me not ‘them’. As a Christ follower will I take the risk of being seen to compromise and to focus on ‘tabernacling  with’ others. Like Peter am I  expecting the Lord to reshape my cultural (including ‘churchworld’) assumptions and with Paul  even contemplate surrendering the freedom I have so that others may be blessed with the grace of God in Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;Just to bore readers even more I am seeking to visit some old friends in terms of books that I have known and loved over the years and see if they still push the buttons as it were. Ward, McClaren, Croft,Reid, Smail, Yancey, Nouwen, Hybels, Bosch, Ortberg, Lewis, Willard, Frost and Hirsch etc etc  Any other suggestions gratefully received as are your contributions to this blog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/7773722086251863606-1044704029051652679?l=malcolmfh.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/feeds/1044704029051652679/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/01/malcolms-sab-notes-1.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/1044704029051652679'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7773722086251863606/posts/default/1044704029051652679'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://malcolmfh.blogspot.com/2010/01/malcolms-sab-notes-1.html' title=''/><author><name>Malcolm  Herbert</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04725631063110381175</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__dTS78fYeGs/S6-tzz2a5FI/AAAAAAAABh8/LG5KrQ3HUh8/S220/n621925286_7883.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry></feed>
